JAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 9 Posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1326 times:
Is it true that Bombardier has decided to cancel the plans for it's 100 seat BRJ-X? Appareantly they have been "warned" by Boeing not to proceed with it as it theratens Boeings 717. Boeing appareantly claims that if Bombardier proceeds with it Boeing will enter their market which would certainly not be good for Bombardier. Does anyone have anymore info on this? By the way, my dad heard this from his frind who is an engineer at the Downsview Bombardier plant in Toronto.
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3803 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1279 times:
If BBD was worried about competing with the717 then they would not be building the CRJ-900, 90 seats is inthe 717 market!! I have not seen or heard anything from anyone about this happenning, the fact is that BBD has deleyed any decision on this plane until more market research is done.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
Airman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 981 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Hmmm sounds familiar. Sounds like Boeing doesn't want any more competition with anyone!! They sound like sore losers. This sounds the same back in the Fifties when AVRO Canada was going to build the Arrow. What happened there?!?!?!?! Americans didn't want it built because it was FAR FAR FAR better than the American equivilant. If there was such a thing back then, or now for that matter!!!! Anyway I am not trying to start a war or anything like that I just hope that Bombardier does go ahead with it. I think it would be a great airliner and would do well.
Corey777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
... [Bombardier has been] "warned" by Boeing not to proceed with it as it theratens Boeing's 717. Boeing appareantly claims that if Bombardier proceeds with it Boeing will enter their market...
Would (does) Bombardier take this "threat" seriously?? I doubt it. Bombardier has strong, long-established customer bases for its a/c. I think Boeing would have a hard time convincing Bombardier's customers that its product is superior to Bombardier's. Furthermore, Boeing's assembly lines are set up for big planes. They would have to retool to start producing RJs, which would take time. This whole "threat", if it's true, is Boeing's own insecurity that it may have competition in the North American airliner market.
AC183 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
BRJ-X hasn't exactly been cancelled, rather work has been shelved... so no work is progressing on it right now, and the engineers have been reassigned to other projects. But in the future work could be resumed, although I don't see it happening anytime soon.
I don't know what to think of the Boeing story, but R&D costs probably also would not have justified such a development, at least not at this time. Also, Bombardiers customers are mostly regional feeder carriers, which makes it tougher to sell larger aircraft because of scope clauses. And Bombardier is already pretty busy just building enough CRJ's.
CV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1191 times:
I believe if the program has been shelved it was do to low demand in North America, the biggest customer for the CRJ. Most airlines have scope clauses with their commuters limiting ths ize and number of passengers that they can carry. There are only a few national carriers, like Midway, that would need an aircraft of this size and be able to fly it. Delta, United, Northwest, American, USAirways, and Continental all ahve limits far below the 90-100 seats this aircraft would have.