Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2055 times:
Just read on the local newspaper that today LAN announced that they have reached a code-share agreement with TAM. It's a vague article (so not to be taken literally), but it also talks about passengers being able to earn miles on each others flights - do I smell JJ joining OW???
Can anyone add some more info on this?
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Cybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 447 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2044 times:
It would be great to see JJ in OW soon but it seems a little bit complicated...Also as a LANPASS member it will be great to earn miles in JJ and vice versa. BTW in which flights they will code share?
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
It's interesting that the agreement only pertains to travel within S.A. Why would this be?
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LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11201 posts, RR: 61 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2008 times:
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Every day we see comments about JJ going to an alliance, and it's very clear, agreement after agreement, that they are not looking for this.
Now they keep agreements with:
TP - Star
AA, LA - Oneworld
AF - SkyTeam
And LH could be the next.... they have a clear focus on offer to their customers the more options they can.
LA announced in Brazil yesterday that they are expecting to shortly begin 4M services to GIG, a new LP flight to GIG as well as another service GIG-SCL. IMO, this announcement of code-share explains as a focus to offer North & Northeast services thru Rio.
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Jog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
Quoting Acontador (Thread starter): Just read on the local newspaper that today LAN announced that they have reached a code-share agreement with TAM. It's a vague article (so not to be taken literally), but it also talks about passengers being able to earn miles on each others flights
There is a press release on TAM's investor relations website now. They indeed state that they want to broaden the passengers' options to fly to several destinations in South America and explicitly mention the markets of Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru and Venezuela. They also explicitly state that passengers will be able to use the VIP facilities of both airlines and be able to earn miles on each others flights.
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4): Every day we see comments about JJ going to an alliance, and it's very clear, agreement after agreement, that they are not looking for this.
100% agree. And it becomes more and more what they always stated: They want partnerships with the main airlines at all their international destinations. So even if the next agreement after LH will be BA or BMI, we cannot take this as a hint towards OW or Star.
And I agree with TAM that this strategy is better for them than moving into any alliance. JJ's main customers are still based in Brazil. With these partnerships they are able to offer their customers connections on partner airlines to all relevant destinations beyond their own destinations. There is no real use of a strong trans-atlantic network in the northern hemisphere to most of JJ's customers as well as they do not need a strong network in Asia. TAM instead needs opportunities to get their customers to the main American (North and South)/European/Asian destinations.
On the other hand such agreements allow TAM to sell their strong Brazilian/South American network to the customers of airlines flying into Brazil. In this way, they are also able to get a higher percentage of the customers of these airlines into their own domestic network. This is especially important as I guess that TAM can expect a high percentage of Premium fares paying passengers here.
Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1789 times:
Just some thoughts:
This agreement (although the details are still not public) at least seems to go much further than just a code-share, like the ones JJ already has with TP, AA and AF. It seems to be more of a strategic alliance against Gol/Varig, and probably aimed first and foremost at disputing the regional South American market. However, if JJ is expanding their network abroad into Europe and North America, this could give LA the chance also to expand their network (including for LAN Argentina, Peru and Ecuador). This would be a mayor step, and it would put JJ ad-portas of OW...
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Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
Quoting PHKLM (Reply 8): Quoting Acontador (Reply 7):
his agreement (although the details are still not public)
It is public. And it can be found here (in English)
PHKLM, sorry to disagree. What we have so far (and you link to it) is a PRESS RELEASE with an ANNOUNCEMENT of an agreement, not the detailed text of the agreement itself. Nevertheless, let's wait and see what else comes out to the public (where are my LAN friends???).
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RJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1943 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1673 times:
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4): LA announced in Brazil yesterday that they are expecting to shortly begin 4M services to GIG, a new LP flight to GIG as well as another service GIG-SCL. IMO, this announcement of code-share explains as a focus to offer North & Northeast services thru Rio.
Possible dates? Because all depends of the arrival of new planes specially the A318 to "release" some A320 to LAN Argentina and LAN Peru. Also LAN will receive by the end of May a new Boeing 767-300ER (CC-CWV).
Respect of the official announcement of the LAN-TAM alliance, here is the official announcement from LAN Airlines (only spanish):
TAM Y LAN ACUERDAN IMPLEMENTAR UNA ALIANZA COMERCIAL
Santiago, 9 de mayo de 2007.- TAM y la alianza LAN -integrada por LAN Airlines, LAN Perú, LAN Argentina y LAN Ecuador- acordaron formalizar una alianza comercial entre las aerolíneas que las integran.
Dicho acuerdo tiene como finalidad desarrollar los enlaces aéreos en las rutas operadas por estas compañías dentro de América del Sur, ampliando las opciones de los pasajeros para volar a numerosos destinos de la región. A su vez, los clientes de las aerolíneas de la alianza LAN contarán con todas las facilidades para poder viajar en las rutas operadas por TAM con múltiples opciones de horarios y frecuencias. Lo anterior será posible mediante el establecimiento de esquemas de código compartido que se implementarán en los próximos meses.
Entre las ventajas que aportará esta alianza comercial para los pasajeros de las compañías antes mencionadas, destacan los viajes con una sola documentación desde el inicio del trayecto hasta el destino final y uso de salones vip. Otra ventaja será la acumulación y cobro de millas en los programas de pasajero frecuente LANPASS y el Programa Fidelidade TAM.
Para el Presidente de TAM, Marco Antonio Bologna, esta alianza comercial con LAN representa un paso importante para la conectividad en América del Sur, estimulando la distribución de pasajeros en los mercados de Brasil, Chile, Argentina, Perú y Venezuela, entre otros. “Los pasajeros de TAM y de LAN podrán contar con una gran variedad de vuelos y las ventajas de los programas de fidelización de las dos empresas”.
Por su parte, Enrique Cueto, Vicepresidente Ejecutivo de LAN afirmó que: “Gracias a este convenio nuestros pasajeros dispondrán de una excelente red que hará más fáciles sus viajes y, a la vez, se estimularán los acuerdos de comercio ya existentes entre las naciones, fomentando el turismo y la cooperación bilateral en la región.”
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11201 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
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Quoting Solnabo (Reply 6): I read in Skyliner website that TAM´s to get 2 A345 in October (ex AC)
What routes for them?
Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 11): Possible dates? Because all depends of the arrival of new planes specially the A318 to "release" some A320 to LAN Argentina and LAN Peru. Also LAN will receive by the end of May a new Boeing 767-300ER (CC-CWV).
LIM has been mentioned to September. EZE-GIG probably in October. The additional SCL service "during the next weeks" as per two different websites in Brazil: Panrotas and Mercado & Eventos.
Felipe
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C010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3513 posts, RR: 21 Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1564 times:
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4): Every day we see comments about JJ going to an alliance, and it's very clear, agreement after agreement, that they are not looking for this.
Now they keep agreements with:
TP - Star
AA, LA - Oneworld
AF - SkyTeam
Quoting Jog (Reply 5): And I agree with TAM that this strategy is better for them than moving into any alliance
JJ is so incredibly promiscuous. It's the whore of the skies dressed in scarlet red.
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