EIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
I saw a photo taken a couple days ago of an AS 734 out-of-service at PDX with a white tent-like structure over the front of the fuselage. Apparently there was an incident on 4/28 in which a 734 was hit (by a ground power unit??) while at the gate at PDX, and was wondering if it's the same plane, and if so, was the airplane was seriously damaged?
EIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
Thanks for finding that. Well, it doesn't sound like a very serious incident, so I'm surprised that the aircraft appears to still be out-of-service (at least there are no ACARS records of it since 4/28). I saw it sitting there when I was at pdx 10 days ago.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3814 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3): .seriousnenough to probably punch some kind of hole in the fuselage. The factnthat it's being repaired under the tent at PDX suggests that the aircraft couldn't be MX ferried..
Sometimes, ya gotta fix'em where ever they happen to be...
At least it's at a station that's less than a 3 hour drive from Boeing's manufacturing ops, and also happens to be QX's maintenance base...
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KBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3372 times:
They talked about the possibility of nosing it into the QX hanger, but it would have effectively blocked the hanger to all QX aircraft, so the next best option is to put up a tent around it. I have seen Boeing do this before when doing AOG repairs. I believe a Boeing AOG team is doing the work. I was told it looks like it will be there for several weeks.
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6248 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
It was an air-start unit and the repairs are out of AS hands now. Boeing has been on-site for a few days to work on the A/C. Same thing happened when CO put a basketball size hole in a 2 week old -900 here at SFO a while back. Alaska can and will fix something only so big, then the big guns are called in like in this case.
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26497 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2859 times:
Quoting FlyPBA (Reply 12): Boeing fixed a JAL 747 (IIRC) in a similar fashion up in Anchorage a while back ... and it was in much much much worse shape than this
Yes, the JL 747-200 incident at ANC was over 30 years ago, December 16, 1975. Slid off a snow-covered taxiway and went backwards down a 50-foot high embankment. I think the insurance company came close to writing it off. Repairs cost about $20 million, which in 1975 was over half the price of a new 747. The aircraft was only 18 months old.
I think it was one of the largest on-site Boeing repair jobs ever, and was complicated by having to do it in the open air. As I recall it required replacement of a couple of fuselage sections, engines, landing gear, among other things. The aircraft was returned to service 9 months later in September 1976.
It was this aircraft (photo taken a year after it returned to service):
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2682 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 9): Ouch! Is this how airlines typically handle ramp rash?
Seems it took a hit some time before in just below the new damage, that repair will be removed and included in the repair of the new damage. I am sure Boeing has a good skin-stringer-frame repair in the 737 Structural Repair Manual that can be used to accomplish the repair.
A typical Boeing lap joint repair in the can be seen in the first picture in Reply 6.
At least the crew and ground staff knew (although it was worse) about this incident before taking off... unlike the MD-80 flying from SEA-BUR. You know... the one where the Menzies ramp agent hit the plane and didn't report it. Way to look out for the best interest of the passengers!