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787 Nose And Tail Fuse Coming To Everett Today!  
User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12439 times:

LCF2 N780BA Flight plan filed at 1:51 pm EDT as Boeing 632 leaving Charleston AFB (KCHS) en route to Everett (KPAE) with precious cargo - Section 41, 47/48 aboard.

Departure is set for 6:00pm EDT, with a touchdown at Paine Field at 7:59pm PDT.

CHS-PAE Expected Flight Plan: J47 CAE J52 VUZ J41 MEM RZC ICT J182 GLD J80 FQF J52 LKT MWH

Updates at http://flightblogger.blogspot.com


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12362 times:

Is that flight plan just something someone came up with or an actual filing? Seems a little odd the Dreamlifter needs to file on airways.

And now that the pieces are getting to PAE, would someone on the factory tour see the assembly?


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12356 times:

That was a filed plan. All IFR flights have a designated route.


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12286 times:

Quoting IAD787 (Reply 2):
That was a filed plan. All IFR flights have a designated route.

I know.. but there should be no reason (with normal, operating RNAV equipment) that they couldn't file intersections or at least distant directs. This route is really old school, and probably about 100 miles longer than it really needs to be.


User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12096 times:

Landing at 8PM, just in time to offload at night.  Wink


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User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12052 times:

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 3):
I know.. but there should be no reason (with normal, operating RNAV equipment) that they couldn't file intersections or at least distant directs.

Technically this particular aircraft is GPS-equipped, not RNAV equipped (I know, same thing, but apparantly not according to the FAA as the RNAV code is type/R and the flight on flightaware is B744/G where G= GPS equipped...i'm bored can you tell...).


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12017 times:

That brings up a great question.

What do all of those letters mean?

When I flew my C172 it had a /A at the end. The 777 has a /Q. The LCF has /G. How many are there and what do they all mean?



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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11878 times:

Quoting IAD787 (Reply 6):
What do all of those letters mean?

http://www.gofir.com/general/rvsm/aircraft_equipment_suffix.htm


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11843 times:

Awesome. Thanks!

Why no RVSM? Is this because it's an older model 747-400?



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User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11463 times:

Takeoff is an hour and a half late right now. It was scheduled for 6:00pm EDT. Anyone know what is going on on the ground in Charleston?


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11284 times:

Quoting IAD787 (Reply 8):
Why no RVSM? Is this because it's an older model 747-400?

The B744 is certainly capable of RVSM. There are two possibilities here.. either 1) the B744 in Dreamlifter configuration has not been certified for flight into RVSM airspace yet or 2) something on this particular plane is not working properly that would keep them out of RVSM airspace.

Either way, it stinks to have to fly across the country below FL290.


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11239 times:

Now almost 3 hrs behind schedule. Anyone know what's up?


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User currently offlinePygmalion From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 968 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11239 times:

The LCF is not certified yet and so can't be RVSM certified yet... Experimental ticket.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11127 times:

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 10):
Either way, it stinks to have to fly across the country below FL290.

It may not even be capable of FL290.

NS


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

According to Flightaware it hasn't flown above 28000 on any of the recent flights.


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User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10844 times:

Boeing 632 is now scheduled to depart KCHS (Charleston AFB Int'l) at 04:00AM EDT heading for KPAE Snohomish Co for an arrival at 05:58AM PDT.

Expected route: J47 CAE J52 VUZ J41 MEM RZC ICT J182 GLD J80 FQF J20 YKM

Sunrise arrival! It's gonna be beautiful! Sunrise is at 5:36am!



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10810 times:

Quoting IAD787 (Reply 11):
Now almost 3 hrs behind schedule. Anyone know what's up?

Yes, the whole 787 program is 3 hours behind schedule...  Wink

Or maybe they are still learning how to load the thing?



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User currently offlineSpaceshipone From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10647 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 13):
It may not even be capable of FL290.

LCF1 flew SEA to ANC on its way to Taiwan last week at FL410. (Source: Flightaware) That is a first for the LCF.

[Edited 2007-05-11 07:56:05]

User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 877 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10639 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
Yes, the whole 787 program is 3 hours behind schedule...

At this rate, it's gonna roll-out on 7-9-(200)7, and they will have to rename the entire program!


User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2449 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10584 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
Yes, the whole 787 program is 3 hours behind schedule...

People at Airbus HQ are partying right now doing cartwheels with excitement over the 3 hour delay to the 787....



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5477 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10436 times:

Well I'll be darned...it's been a while so I forgot but my 1966 Cherokee 140 was RNAV and the LCF isn't...yet. It was /I. Neato.


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User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10241 times:
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Well, BOE632 is off to KPAE as of about 25 minutes ago, now scheduled to arrive 6:48AM PDT.

Man, another 43 minute delay! Boeing had better pull it together!  duck 


User currently offlineBohlman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9229 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 5):
Technically this particular aircraft is GPS-equipped, not RNAV equipped (I know, same thing, but apparantly not according to the FAA as the RNAV code is type/R and the flight on flightaware is B744/G where G= GPS equipped...i'm bored can you tell...).

The /R stands for RNP (Required Navigational Performance) not RNAV. GPS is a type of advanced RNAV, but just straight up GPS does not necessarily meet RNP accuracy standards during ALL phases of flight.

The RNAV letter designations are /Y, /C, /I, while the advanced RNAV designations are /E, /F, /G, and /R.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31259 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9181 times:
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I'll keep an eye out for her when I drive by to work around 7!

User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8284 times:

Now on final at 1300 feet. Should be on the ground any second!


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25 Stitch : She's over at the remote parking stand now (East of the flight line). Seaview Drive was packed this morning with folks heading to the Boeing facilitie
26 LY4XELD : That's just normal everyday Boeing traffic...it's Seaway, by the way. Apparently, the local NBC station (KING 5) was following it on the way into PAE
27 Post contains links IAD787 : Just posted the arrival video! http://www.king5.com/video/featured-index.html?nvid=143013 Pictures and video will be on my site when they become avail
28 JoeCanuck : Thanks for the video but the King5 site has the worst player ever. It won't continue to load while I pause and if the feed stops for a pico second, I
29 Post contains images Stitch : I'm on that road every day at around the same time and it was much busier today then it has ever been in the past.
30 IAD787 : Apparently, the wings are being delivered on Wednesday, May 16th.
31 Post contains images USAF336TFS : I guess it's not just us A.Nutters that are looking forward to the rollout and first flight of the 787!
32 Post contains links IAD787 : First pics from today's delivery are now available on my site. Section 47/48 coming out all wrapped up. I'll be pooling them all together as the day p
33 Post contains images LY4XELD : Alright, I'll give you that. Just saw our new baby (in parts) in the factory! Its so exciting!
34 Post contains images 787atPAE : LY4XELD, do you know what happened to Section 41? I took a gander in the factory, and that section was MIA. The rear of the fuselage was still on the
35 IAD787 : Thanks! And thank you for visiting. It's great to see so many Boeing employees coming to my site. Apparently it's being spread around the company!
36 Psyops : Right now the section 41 is sitting on the ramp west of the paint bays and the delivery center, all wrapped in white. Local time 5:45pm Everett.
37 LY4XELD : I think they're just taking time with things right now. The other section had to be unwrapped and, I'm assuming, inspected, upon arrival in the facto
38 787atPAE : Thanks for the heads up. IMO, this is so disrespectful to the flight deck, etc. We took a drive around PAE and I barely caught S41 out there on the r
39 Post contains links Clickhappy : Here is a shot from this mornings arrival http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC_5216_N780BA.jpg
40 IAD787 : Haven't decided yet. I'll probably just follow it through EIS next summer. It's a lot of work to follow just one. That'll be a decision made for late
41 Pygmalion : you can see just as well from the Future of Flight parking lot on the other side of the field. No pass required and the view is actually better as it
42 Clickhappy : Anyone know how I get a media credential as a blogger? Not likely, they are swamped with media requests. But they have layed out a full three days of
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