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Whats Up At Kteb?  
User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Anyone have any idea as to why KTEB is closed? We have a lot of bizjets at our FBO chilling out and they don't seem to know whats going on down there, someone said weather but I just checked and its fine....any clues? I also heard a plane calling Meridian FBO down there and they said all FBO's were closed...hmmm


Thats not flying, thats falling with style -Woody
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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

The weather may be OK at TEB (for the moment), but take a look at the WX radar. Thunderstorms have most of western ZNY covered up, and they're moving NE, and are also causing widespread re-routes in/out of the NYC airports as well as those in/out of ZBW airports...

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting PILOTALLEN (Thread starter):
Anyone have any idea as to why KTEB is closed? We have a lot of bizjets at our FBO chilling out and they don't seem to know whats going on down there, someone said weather but I just checked and its fine....any clues? I also heard a plane calling Meridian FBO down there and they said all FBO's were closed...hmmm

Thunderstorms are enveloping the area from central Pennsylvania up through New Hampshire, which would cut out a lot of routes in and out. All the NYC airports (and PHL) are in ground delay according to the FAA.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

In fact, check out advisory #67 here:

http://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/

If it's no longer there, it's been cancelled...


User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

Yeah I guess I didn't spend enough time looking at it, thanks guys!


Thats not flying, thats falling with style -Woody
User currently offlineEasternSon From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

Josh, it's because they don't want people like you flying in there.

You're no loner welcome in NJ.



"The only people for me are the mad ones...." Jack Kerouac
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 3):
In fact, check out advisory #67 here:

Interesting page. So, if I read that right, the ground stop has been lifted, but they are still doing ground delays?

What do AVG, AAR, and PR mean? And under DA, I understand that that determines how long the delays are, but are the times minutes until wheels-up, or the time that the planes will be allowed off?

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):
What do AVG, AAR, and PR mean? And under DA, I understand that that determines how long the delays are, but are the times minutes until wheels-up, or the time that the planes will be allowed off?

Click on the little "Help" icon on the right side of the title bar for "National Programs" and all will be explained...  Wink


User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Acording to the Boston Center's TMU display LGA, JFK, EWR, and TEB are all showing EDCTs due to weather. The Colgan flight from LEB-LGA is delayed almost 2 hours as of now and the EDCTs are increasing. Bad day to be flying in the Mid-Atlantic and North East.


"I use multi-billion dollar military satellite systems to find tupperware in the woods."
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Quoting Nbgskygod (Reply 8):
Bad day to be flying in the Mid-Atlantic and North East.

..and it'll get worse as the weather continues to move east and further reduce the available airspace between the WX and the NYC/TEB/BOS airports...


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):
Click on the little "Help" icon on the right side of the title bar for "National Programs" and all will be explained...



 embarrassed 

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Yeah thanks Eastern! I think they are mad because the Devils lost in hockey...oh well....yeah its getting pretty crappy up here right now, some big CB's rising over the airport...summer is finally here!


Thats not flying, thats falling with style -Woody
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 9):
..and it'll get worse as the weather continues to move east and further reduce the available airspace between the WX and the NYC/TEB/BOS airports...

Speaking of which, there's now a severe thunderstorm watch out for that area...

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/wwamap/wwatx...&wwa=severe%20thunderstorm%20watch

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
embarrassed

Don't feel bad, the combination of the bar/button color makes it easy to overlook..  Wink


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 12):
Speaking of which, there's now a severe thunderstorm watch out for that area...

There was actually a tornado warning in Susquehanna county (NE PA) a few hours ago. The yellow boxes here are the severe thunderstorm watches:

http://www.wunderground.com/severe.a...y=SVRMAP&setprefs.0.val=us#gotoMap

Here's what the storms look like currently:



Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 13):
Here's what the storms look like currently:

Once the line gets a certain distance away (such that flight ETAs will be very close to the line's ETA at various airports), ATC will understandably have to pull the plug, let the stuff blow through, and then start up again launching to/from on the back side of the line..

Gotta love springtime thunderstorm season...  Wink


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 14):
Gotta love springtime thunderstorm season...

Nothing like sitting on the covered back porch as a big thunderstorm rolls through.  cloudnine 

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 12):
Don't feel bad, the combination of the bar/button color makes it easy to overlook..

Actually, it was more of a "this is an FAA website, there couldn't possibly be any help button on here" thought.  Wink

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
Actually, it was more of a "this is an FAA website, there couldn't possibly be any help button on here" thought.

Sorta like one being on an IRS site, no?  Wink


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

The entire day has been a mess. Most of the day conditions were MVFR. This is at and around BLM, 40 miles south of TEB.

Had a flight booked at 2000UTC to take some friends up but a call to the weather briefers revealed all hell could break loose at any time as expected before I called. Severe storms were to the west about 50 miles and moving in an east-northeast direction. Also there was a severe storm warning at the airport and there was lightning reported in the vicinity.

It may have looked nice out, but the way it was cloudy one minute and sunny the next with those towering cumulus above definitely kept many folks grounded today.


User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

this one could get dangerous:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536921701/1178838561KHSg9P.jpg


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 17):
Sorta like one being on an IRS site, no?

Something like that. Sometimes the FAA surprises me.  Smile

Quoting Graphic (Reply 19):

That TVS is some tornadic action going on, right?

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

BTW when TEB goes into severe Departure delays like they are now (almost 4 hours) the FBO's generally into gridlock since no one is leaving the ramp. When no one leaves the airport stops accepting arrivals since they have no where to put them (note: airport is not 'closed')... I've seen it so bad that 4 and 5 out of the 5 FBO's are gridlocked, plans completely packing twy G and A, and waiting hours just to get to the ramp.

User currently offlinePILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

Yeah KTEB is a disaster even on a good day, I've flown in there many times and never had it go smooth....i haven't seen it as bad as some people but we've waited on the ground much longer than the flight took....


Thats not flying, thats falling with style -Woody
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Thunderstorms, some severe are expected, especially north of NY CIty and of TEB. It may also be to keep open LGA/EWR/JFK traffic as TEB is very close to all of them and with restricted flight paths.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Looks like the severe watches and warnings have expired for the time being. The storm front seems to be moving pretty slowly towards the NYC metro area.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1598 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
That TVS is some tornadic action going on, right?

TVS stands for Tornado Vortex Signature.


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