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User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

I am new to ZED and ID90, am planning a fairly extensive flight for next year, and was wondering if there is a way to book Bussiness class using these fares, or do they have to be coach?

Kris


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

Quoting KBFIspotter (Thread starter):
(I) was wondering if there is a way to book Bussiness class using these fares, or do they have to be coach?

No, you can not book Business. ID90 and non-rev is always book at the lowest class. Only if open seats are avalable do you get the option to upgrade. That is also at the descretion of the gate agent and just because a seat is open does it mean you get the upgrade.

[Edited 2007-05-11 17:05:23]


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User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3982 times:

thanks for the info... much appreciated

Kris



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Best advice I can offer after my years with an a airline. Dress nice, don't be pushy, don't be demanding, don't say it's your right to get 1st Class -Business as an employee.... be polite and say Thank You. With that all you can do is hope.

Keep in mind, with todays leaner flights you might just be lucky to even get on....let alone upgrade.



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User currently offlineSea2Pdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
No, you can not book Business. ID90 and non-rev is always book at the lowest class.

Not quite true. For example Kris, as a QX employee, you can list and travel First on NW, both dom and intl(WBC) if you purchase the right tickets. You're able to buy both coach and first passes on them. I'm sure there's other similar agreements out and about with other airlines, but that was the one that came to mind, having done it before myself.


User currently offlineSeattle ops From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

I think you can buy a Biz class Zed ticket, check with your travel office.

User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Thank you again for your help on this guys, it is very much appreciated. I am very content sitting in Y when I fly. I just started wondering about options, though. Thanks again!!!!

Oh, and I a strong believer that when traveling Space A (or ZED, ID90, or whatever), one should always dress at a minimum in Business Casual.

Kris



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User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 734 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

I don't believe you can fly ID90 or Zed in F or J class, but there are some discount agreements that are ID50 that allow for premium cabins.

AJMIA



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User currently offlineSea2Pdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting KBFIspotter (Reply 6):
Oh, and I a strong believer that when traveling Space A (or ZED, ID90, or whatever), one should always dress at a minimum in Business Casual.

I agree. I'm always dressed quite nicely, usually including a tie. I've been updgraded several times, but who knows if its because of my appearance or not, one can assume though  Smile


User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

The one and only time I had to use an ID90/ZED fare, commuting to work, DTW-EWR I had to go on NW because the CO flights weren't looking so good, I got first class, though it was the only seat left on the plane, and the gate agent said take it. And kudos to the gate agent that morning for making sure I got to work Smile

User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Welcome to the ID90/ZED game!

If you come over to Europe, or use your concessions or European airlines, you will find that the rules are a little different. For example, generally you only get an upgrade if Y is full; many of the airlines here insist that you waitlist (which is a real pain unless you can do it online - see the ZED website for details of who you can list with there). If you use a ZED ticket, as opposed to whatever IDxx agreement your company has with the one you want to use, then make sure you have all the carriers operating the route at the same ZED level noted on the ticket, so that you can switch carriers easily without the need for endorsements, backup tickets, etc.

It's a great way to travel, I've done many strange round-the-World routes using ZED/IDxx tickets that would be unthinkably expensive if purchased commercially.



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

I once felt like an idiot when I was told to board the plane without an assignment and just find the seat, and I just walked into coach and sat down in the middle seat that was left. Then a week later I returned and agent came up and asked how was first class. I was like ummm. She then said that they had an empty first class seat and expected me to sit in it... But then she said next time she will be specific on what class rather than just board and find the seat. haha


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3759 times:

Quoting KBFIspotter (Thread starter):
I am new to ZED and ID90, am planning a fairly extensive flight for next year, and was wondering if there is a way to book Bussiness class using these fares, or do they have to be coach?

It all depends on the kind of agreement your carrier has with other carriers. ZED/ID Agreements are bilateral agreements only.Some carriers do have ID/ZED agreements in business class with other carriers, others don't. So the only thing you should do is to check with your staff travel department.



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User currently offlineDl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1979 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3753 times:

I had trouble ticketing an ID90 on LH from ZRH-FRA in Y class. It would ticket in C class with no problems. This is one case when I booked and flew in C on an ID90.


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User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 10):
Welcome to the ID90/ZED game!

Thanks!

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 10):
It's a great way to travel, I've done many strange round-the-World routes using ZED/IDxx tickets that would be unthinkably expensive if purchased commercially.

That is exactly what I am planning... I was already going to travel to Moscow, and so I decided to just keep going and ake it an around the world flight... From what I have seen on our internal ZED website, it is amazingly cheaper than my other option (paying internet fares).

Thanks again for the advice!

Kris



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User currently offlineYirina77 From Czech Republic, joined Aug 2006, 632 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

There are some airlines which offers C class on ZED tickets

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 12):
It all depends on the kind of agreement your carrier has with other carriers. ZED/ID Agreements are bilateral agreements only.Some carriers do have ID/ZED agreements in business class with other carriers, others don't. So the only thing you should do is to check with your staff travel department.

Correct. For example my airline has agreement for travelling on ZED in C class with LH. But there is of course higher fare per milleage segment than classic ZED.



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3009 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
No, you can not book Business. ID90 and non-rev is always book at the lowest class. Only if open seats are avalable do you get the option to upgrade. That is also at the descretion of the gate agent and just because a seat is open does it mean you get the upgrade.

as a LH employee we can book and fly in Business on many Star Alliance carriers for example SA)">UA, SA, OS, LX and even on other carriers like EK, EY, OK, JL, NW, QR, QF. Some of them are only on stand-by others are bookable. It all depends on the agreement your airline has with other carriers.


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