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Same Airline, Destination, Indentical Dep Time?  
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Hey,

With looking at the departure sequences on the flight information boards (TBIT) in LAX, I've noticed that on occasion some of the airlines operate multiple flights to the same destination within minutes of each other. This makes sense to me, obviously there are certain connections to made wherever those flights are going, or maybe just sufficient O&D or combination of the two. I'm just curious as to some examples of airlines in this practice from other airports. I would imagine the NY-London corridor has a couple examples of this. Thanks.

Flyboy80

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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9299 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

6:20pm and 6:20pm on American/American Eagle from St. Louis into Dallas - Ft. Worth and Dallas Love Field.

a slight stretch ... but if you're flying just between those two city pairs.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11414 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

If you were looking at departure board at the TBIT at LAX, then more than likely what you were seeing was not actually multiple airlines' flights departing at identical times to identical destinations. You were likely looking at a departure board reflecting codeshare flights operated by one airline, but sold by both carriers. Example: QANTAS (QF) flight 94 departs LAX TBIT at 2340 headed to MEL, and so does American (AA) flight 7356. But these are not two different flights -- they are the same flight, operated by one carrier (QF) and codeshared on by another (AA).

User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
If you were looking at departure board at the TBIT at LAX, then more than likely what you were seeing was not actually multiple airlines' flights departing at identical times to identical destinations. You were likely looking at a departure board reflecting codeshare flights operated by one airline, but sold by both carriers. Example: QANTAS (QF) flight 94 departs LAX TBIT at 2340 headed to MEL, and so does American (AA) flight 7356. But these are not two different flights -- they are the same flight, operated by one carrier (QF) and codeshared on by another (AA).

lol, please...I'm a flight attendant...they were not codeshares, I can read a departure board. This is my fault for indentifing similar departure times as identical departure times (within an hour or maybe slightly more) The reason I ask is it seemed very uncommon at LAX, and I'm just interested in other airports, other examples. All out of curiosity. Thanks and I apologize for the confusion.

Brian.


User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Australian Government's "two-airline policy" in force until the 1990's. Until the 80's, TAA and Ansett operated identical aircraft on identical flights at the same time. The policy slightly shifted when TAA ordered the A300 and Ansett refused to buy that aircraft, opting for the 767-200 instead.

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

What you are noticing is the overall reduction of widebodies from the U.S. airline fleets.

AA for example went from running nothing but widebodies to the East Coast, to what? 757s and 767s?

To meet that need for early morning departures, between 6a to 8a, airlines need to run side-by-side departures to maintain the demand they once met with larger capacity aircraft, but yet has grown since.



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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2575 times:

AmericaWest does this out of Phoenix quite a bit.

PHX-LAX.
HP1163 1020AM-1152AM
HP27 1021AM-1157AM

HP29 120PM - 244PM
HP2853 121PM - 245PM

HP308 433PM - 559PM
HP32 434PM - 600PM

PHX-LAS
HP468 956AM - 1101AM
HP529 1003AM - 1112AM

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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2540 times:

VS fly PVG - LHR departing at 10.55 on a 346
BA fly PVG - LHR departing 11.00 on a 777

BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 8.55 on a 747
And LHR - EWR departing at 8.55 on a 777

AA fly LHR - JFK departing at 10.15 on a 777
BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 10.25 on a 747

AI fly LHR - JFK departing at 13.40 on a 747
BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 13.40 also on a 747

VS fly LHR - JFK departing at 16.00 on a 747/346
And LHR - JFK departing at 16.00 on a 747
then BA LHR - JFK at 16.10 on a 747.


User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2535 times:

Same for LHR - HKG ; I'll get the details in a bit.

User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2511 times:

DEL - SIN

IC, S2, SQ and AFAIK AI depart within hours of each other with S2 starting at 10.30 and IC ending at 0045

Regards
Ag92


User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 690 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2469 times:

when LH still had their 2 daily 744s on FRA-MEX, they also departed pretty close to each other (like 45 minutes or so).

this all is simply because many markets have a certain time pattern that suits market needs.

check SIN-Europe or BKK-Europe e.g.

tons of flights going out at ~ midnight.


User currently offlineHigherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

BA does this quite often to/from SE Asia

How about the BA flights to SIN:

BA11 departs 2125 hrs followed by BA15 at 2135. Both codeshared with QF. QF metal flies at 2205 (w/BA c/s)

BA to HKG:

BA31 departs 2115 hrs followed by BA27 departing at 2215.

BA to BKK:

BA009 departs 2200 hrs (QF codeshare) followed by QF002 departing at 2215 (BA codeshare)


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Often on high density routes, when flights depart within minutes of each other to a hub, each is a "thru" flight past that hub. I.e. they can be sold as "direct" flights....such as

MCO-ATL-LAX
MCO-ATL-LGA

SFO-DEN-MCI
SFO-DEN-PHL

LAX-PHX-ORD
LAX-PHX-ABQ

MSP-DTW-IND
MSP-DTW-DCA

BOS-PHL-STL
BOS-PHL-DFW


User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 463 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 7):

VS fly PVG - LHR departing at 10.55 on a 346
BA fly PVG - LHR departing 11.00 on a 777

BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 8.55 on a 747
And LHR - EWR departing at 8.55 on a 777

AA fly LHR - JFK departing at 10.15 on a 777
BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 10.25 on a 747

AI fly LHR - JFK departing at 13.40 on a 747
BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 13.40 also on a 747

VS fly LHR - JFK departing at 16.00 on a 747/346
And LHR - JFK departing at 16.00 on a 747
then BA LHR - JFK at 16.10 on a 747.

I believe the original post was Same Airline



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

For today (Monday), NW has a 3:05, 3:15 and 3:18 departure from DTW to MSP on a pair of 757s and a DC-9-50; they also have a 7:01p and a 7:06p set (A320 and 757-300) and an 1133a and 1155a pair on a DC-9-50 and A320.

There are also instances of this on the return route.


User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1829 times:

NW742 MSP-DTW 6:40am-9:14am
NW744 MSP-DTW 6:55am-9:29am

NW768 MSP-DTW 10:07am - 12:52pm
NW748 MSP-DTW 10:10am - 12:54pm

NW762 MSP-DTW 1:10pm - 4:03pm
NW754 MSP-DTW 1:12pm - 4:07pm

NW746 MSP-DTW 4:58pm - 7:47pm
NW758 MSP-DTW 5:10pm - 7:59pm

NW448 MSP-MEM 6:45am - 8:43am
NW664 MSP-MEM 6:58am - 8:54am

NW449 MEM-MSP 1:36pm - 3:42pm
NW455 MEM-MSP 1:45pm - 3:51pm

UA906 SFO-ORD 10:40am - 4:51pm
UA830 SFO-ORD 10:48am - 4:59pm

UA721 DEN-SFO 11:19am - 12:55pm
UA517 DEN-SFO 11:35am - 1:11pm

UA370 LAX-DEN 2:31pm - 5:49pm
UA430 LAX-DEN 2:32pm - 5:50pm

AA2348 DFW-ORD 12:45pm - 3:00pm
AA86 DFW-ORD 1:00pm - 3:15pm

AA100 JFK-LHR 6:10pm - 6:25am
AA122 JFK-LHR 6:35pm - 6:55pm

and so on...



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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting MGASJO (Reply 13):
I believe the original post was Same Airline

My appologies. Was just trying to give some general info on the subject.

But in that case, some of my post was relevant;

BA fly LHR - JFK departing at 8.55 on a 747
And LHR - EWR departing at 8.55 on a 777

VS fly LHR - JFK departing at 16.00 on a 747/346
And LHR - EWR departing at 16.00 on a 747

All from London, to New York.


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