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Clearing The Air - Sign The Petition!  
User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Hi

At a time when the green groups are constantly pressuring our governments to put pressure and legislation into place to restrict and scrutinise aviation it is time that the aviation community showed a united front. It is clear that the environmental groups are simply exagerrating the negative effects on aviation, while in fact aviation contributes a significant proportion of the World's GDP, is a major employer and even by the year 2030 will still only contribute 5% of global CO2 emissions.

The message is simple guys, if you want to carry on flying for holidays and business, if you want to support thousands of jobs worldwide and if you want to fly unrestricted, sign this petition!

http://www.gopetition.com/online/12222.html

I call on all A.Netters and people who love to fly around the World to sign this petition!

DSA

P.S Please post the link on anyother websites you are a part of and encourage friends and family to sign!

[Edited 2007-05-14 20:24:04]

35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Gee - I'm the second signature. Hope there will be more ...

User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Hopefully more people will sign up, its only just started. Come on people, anyone on here who does'nt sign can't be that interested in aviation.

DSA

By the way, the guy who made the insulting comments both to the petition starter and the industry entry has been deleted, but thank you for your support!

[Edited 2007-05-14 20:41:34]

User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 573 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

I did sign it..took 2 seconds and you never know - it can make a difference!


When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4915 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Ive signed it. The economic benefits always seem to be forgotten, especially important in areas needing regeneration


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User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1022 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2577 times:
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Quoting Dsa (Thread starter):
The message is simple guys, if you want to carry on flying for holidays and business, if you want to support thousands of jobs worldwide and if you want to fly unrestricted, sign this petition!

Come on . . . nothing is going to happen. Only thing that might change is people like GE will be pushed to continue making cleaner engines, which is good for everyone. Travel for business and holidays is not going to be stopped . . . you have got to be kidding.

Regardless, I am very concerned about the environment but these people complaining about aviation are ridiculous. Face it the problem is cars . . . the problem is Americans.


User currently offlineCirrusDriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

I agree with the cause, but until the aviation industry stops crapping on us here in the US then they will have to suffer, just as we have.

User currently offlineSeansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 808 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I hate the way the UK press continuously goes on about how bad aviation is, then has special offers on cheap flights if you collect the tokens or all the revenue they get from airline advertising. Aviation is a vital aspect to society in many ways and nobody complains about all the cruises which create as much pollution.

User currently offlineRobTrent From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

I think that Aviation is an easy target. Let's face it you work your b***s off to make a living - You take the family on holiday to somewhere relaxing to get away from the daily grind.
Politicians are generally full of bullshit and motives of self preservation in my experience. Given the minimal affect of air traffic ppllution in the grand scheme of things perhaps attention to population awareness and Industrial development should be given priority

Just my 2 Cents
Regards



T7 - You know it makes sense !
User currently offlineBoeing77W From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 7):
nobody complains about all the cruises which create as much pollution

Dam right, shipping accounts for around 5% of global CO2 emissions which is more than all of the African countries combined and yet aviation only accounts for around 2%. The shipping industry is also growing at the same rate, if not faster than aviation...don't hear any body complaining about that now do we!


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3870 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Done and done!

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 5):
Come on . . . nothing is going to happen. Only thing that might change is people like GE will be pushed to continue making cleaner engines, which is good for everyone. Travel for business and holidays is not going to be stopped . . . you have got to be kidding.

Hitler won't invade Poland, and all anyone will ever need is 640K!

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 5):
I agree with the cause, but until the aviation industry stops crapping on us here in the US then they will have to suffer, just as we have.

LOL. No smilie, but surely you are joking, yes?

Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 7):
I hate the way the UK press continuously goes on about how bad aviation is, then has special offers on cheap flights if you collect the tokens or all the revenue they get from airline advertising.

HA ha ha ha ha, that is funny, and very much to the point.


User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1022 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2240 times:
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Quoting Khobar (Reply 11):
LOL. No smilie, but surely you are joking, yes?

I'm not sure why your post above says Quoting ATLAaron, but I did not say that.

Quoting Khobar (Reply 11):
Hitler won't invade Poland, and all anyone will ever need is 640K!

Slightly different.


User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 12):
I'm not sure why your post above says Quoting ATLAaron, but I did not say that.

Indeed. Sorry about that. Not sure what happened.

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 12):
Slightly different.

Interestingly enough, yes, but only slightly different.


User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Done--and if I disappear you know why ..Andre...oops ...anyhow it is a good thing to be aware of,it is easy for some people to jump on the global warming hoax,but they don't seem to understand the economic effects.

User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

I bet this will lead into Global Warming......

User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2758 posts, RR: 45
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 5):
Face it the problem is cars . . . the problem is Americans.

So I take by your blanket indictment of Americans that you have been to countries with no pollution controls and found the US most in need of environmental restructuring?  sarcastic 


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Well, I'm afraid I don't see any point in such a petition, the aviation industry certainly doesn't need any protecting, its economic power and the political connections of those that matter will make sure of that.

On the other hand, a petition calling upon the airline CEO's to put more effort into using their corporate muscle to support good causes (is easyJet the only airline that offers a sustainably farmed coffee brand...?) would be nice...  duck 



I travel, therefore I am.
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11574 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

It would have a far greater impact if you managed to create your petition through the 10 Downing Street site. There is already one on there which is vaguely similar, but word yours to highlight the issue at hand and it may well be accepted. They have one there demanding the closure of LHR even...  Yeah sure

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/


Dan Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

In NZ we have a national magazine, the Listener, where they have just appointed an Environment writer. Even she has said that ALL transport industries create 19% of green house gas pollution compared with agriculture which generates 49% of all methane. She wants us all to have days when we give up eating meat. So, those of you who want to go for a bike ride to the nearest Tofu burger shop, send us your trip report.

User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting Khobar (Reply 13):

Indeed. Sorry about that. Not sure what happened.

You likely highlighted the text in one post and clicked on the 'quote selected text' button in another. As an example I highlighted your text and first clicked on the button in your post (and got the above). I left your text selected and clicked on the button in the following post (#14) and got the following (with apologies to Charlienorth).

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 14):

Indeed. Sorry about that. Not sure what happened.


User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 16):
So I take by your blanket indictment of Americans that you have been to countries with no pollution controls and found the US most in need of environmental restructuring?

My thoughts, exactly.



Fierce, Fabulous, and Flawless ;)
User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 17):

FR stocks Fairtrade Coffee and Tea.

Thank you to all those who have signed, please continue the effort!

DSA


User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1022 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
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Quoting PGNCS (Reply 16):
So I take by your blanket indictment of Americans that you have been to countries with no pollution controls and found the US most in need of environmental restructuring?

Excuse me? So you don't think the majority of carbon dioxide emissions come from Americans? I think the facts show otherwise.


User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 487 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 5):
Face it the problem is cars . . . the problem is Americans.

HA! You are amazing. Why do most prople think countries like China and India that are industrializing faster than weeds grow aren't a problem. How the hell do you make the case that Americans are the biggest problem? Oh, let me guess....because we didn't sign Kyoto?

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 23):
So you don't think the majority of carbon dioxide emissions come from Americans? I think the facts show otherwise.

What facts do you even have that Co2 causes temperature increases? There are many many scientists that have proven it is the other way around.


25 YULWinterSkies : However the need for flying out of the UK should be reduced now with the Channel Tunnel, and yet more people than ever are flying. The UK government
26 ATLAaron : XJet, you are getting way too passionate about this. I am an American living in Ohio so I am not throwing people under the bus without throwing myself
27 PGNCS : Maybe his issue is due to the fact that you said "the problem is Americans."
28 ATLAaron : Well that is my opinion and I am an American. I feel I am allowed to say that since I am including myself in that equation.
29 XJET : Okay, who the hell knows about majorities and minorities of scientists? Global Warming has become such a standard in the media and politics lately th
30 Post contains links Dsa : 121 Signatures so far, thanks for signing guys! It only takes 15 seconds to fill out and can make a difference and help to secure aviations future. SI
31 Post contains links ANother : ATAG has just launched a new website to set the story straight. See www.enviro.aero
32 VV701 : It is my view that this is the problem with petitions. It takes two seconds and requires no effort on behalf of individsuals. My own experience is th
33 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Signed Shannon.
34 Glom : The problem with open democracy is you also have to listen to any hippie wack job. It must be fun to lead a life so unburdeoned by reality. There was
35 Post contains links Yflyer : Actually, Dsa, while I'm sure you mean well, your petition is way to vague and general to make much if any difference at all. A good petition should
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