Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10658 posts, RR: 100 Posted (6 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1125 times:
This is a question in two parts: Does anyone know of the bilateral between Dubai and India? Is it part of a greater UAE bilateral or just for the city/state?
Specifically,
What cities are open to DXB (soon JXB? Can anyone confirm the new airport's code?)
Is there a seat cap as with the India/Korea bilateral?
I'm very bullish on the subcontinents potential economic growth for the next decade. However, lets just say I'm a bear on much of the world's economy. So, can EK fill their A380's doing India to Europe (with connections to 772LR's to the US)?
Now to the China part: I realize Dubai does more trade with China than India (at least in 2006); so is there a bilateral limit on EK expansion into China? Can additional Chinese cities be added easily?
I'm also curious as to what is keeping EK out of NRT...
Any links would be appreciated. (I struck out on a.net's search as well as google.)
Lightsaber
ps
this thread will probably last after I go get married/honeymoon. Don't expect any posts after May 16th until mid-June.
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, RR: 22 Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1077 times:
Quoting BlrBird (Reply 1): Quoting Lightsaber (Thread starter):
I'm also curious as to what is keeping EK out of NRT...
Bilateral I think not sure though.
Or slots?
That's my guess, given that none of the Middle East carriers that have emerged over the last decade have access to NRT.
No GF, EK, EY or QR flights....
Oh... that rocks my estimations of EK's growth potential...
18,400... Not that many seats. I also found, in the link, the limitations specific to EK... interesting, e.g.:
8,158 seats/week to Mumbai, Dehli, and Hyderabad (page 2, section viii of the powerpoint).
I couldn't help but notice the Air India Code share agreement (Page 3, section 4). Interesting...
Yea, I know EK codeshares, but it would be interesting to really get to know the conditions on those code sharing.
For example, what fraction of the seats too/from DXB are really done by code share partners as part of EK's hubbing?
If you cannot tell, I'm trying to adjust my opinions of how fast EK can realistically grow. (Yes, I know there are many opinions on a.net, but I'm taking a more mathematical approach.)
Then again, a full A380 flying LHR-DXB can offload passengers onto Air India just as easily as onto another EK flight... (Yea... less profit, but it still facilitates growth.)
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
That's my guess, given that none of the Middle East carriers that have emerged over the last decade have access to NRT.
No GF, EK, EY or QR flights....
Last I read (I know, going from memory...) 27 countries are on a NRT wait list. So my question is EK limited by Bilateral or slots for NRT?
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, RR: 22 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1021 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Thread starter): Now to the China part: I realize Dubai does more trade with China than India (at least in 2006); so is there a bilateral limit on EK expansion into China? Can additional Chinese cities be added easily?
I dn't know about EK, but i suspect the chinese would give QR and EY access for other reason.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10658 posts, RR: 100 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 919 times:
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 4):
I dn't know about EK, but i suspect the chinese would give QR and EY access for other reason.
Yea... that makes sense. But Dubai does quite a bit of trade with China. Qatar and Abu Dhabi might supply the oil, but quite a few contracts are negotiated in Dubai... hmmm...
If someone has a link of Dubai's bilateral with China, I would be very curious to read it.
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2986 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 914 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Thread starter): Now to the China part: I realize Dubai does more trade with China than India (at least in 2006); so is there a bilateral limit on EK expansion into China? Can additional Chinese cities be added easily?
Irrespective of the volume of trade, the pax traffic between India and DXB will always be far greater, thanks to the huge Indian expat population in Dubai.....
VTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 896 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 5): ps
T-minus 4 days to the wedding! Smile Smile hyper
I'd be more interested in seeing a link for the above, if one exists. If not may be the venue (air or land), location and honeymoon details (Airline and Equipment).
VT-NYC
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Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10658 posts, RR: 100 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 854 times:
Quoting VTNYC (Reply 7): I'd be more interested in seeing a link for the above, if one exists. If not may be the venue (air or land), location and honeymoon details (Airline and Equipment).
ROTFL
Actually, we have a web site... I'm just not ready to post those details.
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So, can EK fill their A380's doing India to Europe (with connections to 772LR's to the US)? 
From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, 
Interesting...
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