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User currently offlineB777A340Fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 774 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

I'm thinking of getting a pilot license with the hope of one day becoming a commercial flight pilot. How is the market faring nowadays and what about for the future? Are we going to see more competition, restrictions, and/or salary increase/decrease? Any thoughts?

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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4416 times:
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Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
I'm thinking of getting a pilot license with the hope of one day becoming a commercial flight pilot. How is the market faring nowadays and what about for the future

The market is desperate for pilots. PSA is hiring with a commerical multi-ticket. The minute I hit 300 hours I am going to send my resume out. I plan on taking the CRJ training ATP which not only certifies me for reduced hiring minimums, but give a good indoc to the systems and flows of the aircraft.

Quoting B777A340Fan (Thread starter):
Are we going to see more competition, restrictions, and/or salary increase/decrease? Any thoughts?

With the salaries the way they are at the regionals the only thing that they can do is go up (hopefully). Right now at most regionals guarantee pay without per diem is about $19,000 your first year.



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

The pay for most entry level commercial pilots is very-very low. You can make more working at Wal-Mart. The hours stink, the life style stinks, the pay stinks, most of the companies stink, upgrades stink.. did I leave anything out..?

But if you love aviation.. go for it.



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User currently offlineCrjflyer35 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 668 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
But if you love aviation

Bingo...If you're doing what you love, the money will come eventually...and I mean a LONG eventually.



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User currently offlineB777A340Fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 774 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
The market is desperate for pilots. PSA is hiring with a commerical multi-ticket. The minute I hit 300 hours I am going to send my resume out. I plan on taking the CRJ training ATP which not only certifies me for reduced hiring minimums, but give a good indoc to the systems and flows of the aircraft.

Given that I have the right amount of hours and certificates, do I have to start at the regional level? Can I expect to be second-in-command on a 777? or if I may dare to dream, the A380 Big grin


User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 332 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4230 times:

If you love it do it. If you have any doubts, stay the hell away. This industry will try everyone in it.

I'll post a quick quote I read in David Simon's book Homicide. It deals with the drain of a long career in policework. It works great for this job as well.

"The attitude of co-workers, the indifference of superiors, the poor quality of equipment- all of it pales if you still love the job; all of it matters if you don't."

If at the end you don't love your job, you'll ask yourself one day why you went and joined the circus. Best of luck though!!!



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User currently offlineUAL777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1556 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):

The market is desperate for pilots. PSA is hiring with a commerical multi-ticket. The minute I hit 300 hours I am going to send my resume out. I plan on taking the CRJ training ATP which not only certifies me for reduced hiring minimums, but give a good indoc to the systems and flows of the aircraft.

I am going to flight instruct until I get 700-800 hours TT. Ive talked to alot of RJ captains lately and they HATE 300 hour so called "wonder pilots" because they have to babysit them. At 300 hours you are dangerous in an RJ in the right conditions due to flat out lack of experience. Doesn't the CRJ course cost like 10 grand as well? Why not get your CFI, instruct for an extra 4-6 months, gain valuable experience and PIC, and have the necessary hours to upgrade?

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 4):

Given that I have the right amount of hours and certificates, do I have to start at the regional level? Can I expect to be second-in-command on a 777? or if I may dare to dream, the A380 Big grin

You must start at the regional carrier. 300 hours will only get you on with the crappiest of regionals. Further, upgrade to captain requires a high amount of PIC so jumping on with low time can hinder your career down the road.

There IS a pilot shortage right now AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL. The reason is that pay sucks so bad and the work rules are aweful. You can save ALOT of money if you go to a local flight school instead of a so called "pilot farm". Stay away from Regional Airline Academy, Delta Connection Academy, or any other flight school that has the "fly an RJ in 9-12 months scheme" with reduced hiring minimums. They are WAY over-priced and your captains hate you because it is seen as "buying your job."

You can save 20-50 grand by going to a smaller flight school and you will receive a better education. If you have alot of money to throw away and you want easy, go to a pilot farm. If you want to be an overall superior pilot, check out a local flight school. A good source is flightinfo.com or airlinepilotcentral.com.

Oh yeah, don't fly for GoJet either.



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