LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6862 times:
Judging from the fact that TLV is highly a successful and a high demand route for LH (or else they wouldn't have a second frequency with an A346), I wouldn't be surprised if they sent their highest density 747s, even at the expense of premium capacity.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7839 posts, RR: 27 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6734 times:
They don't have a special seat configuration for TLV. That's the normal 747 rotation and the plane serves other destinations as well, same as the 346. Even with the old C class, the 747 never had 410 seats
Rumour has it that LH was politely asked by the Israeli Government to restrict it's capacity, that's why they do not serve MUC-TLV.
SailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6682 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5): Rumour has it that LH was politely asked by the Israeli Government to restrict it's capacity, that's why they do not serve MUC-TLV.
From what I've heard, that's some VERY British understatement
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6627 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5): Rumour has it that LH was politely asked by the Israeli Government to restrict it's capacity, that's why they do not serve MUC-TLV.
'politely' could be the rumor, but other than that, this is not a rumor at all. due to traffic right issues, LH had to leave the MUC-TLV market and stick with two dailies ex FRA.
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HT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6475 posts, RR: 26 Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6602 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5): Even with the old C class, the 747 never had 410 seats
What was the capacity of the old 742's before they were retired ? I am under the impression that they had a bigger capacity than the 744's (more Y, less C and/or F) and that's why they were employed to MIA.
-HT
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UAL4ever From Israel, joined Aug 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6066 times:
I am flying ORD-FRA-TLV in mid June and I am flying Business class. The FRA-TLV leg on LH is on a 744 and I have been informed that it is with the new business class. According to seatguru this plane is configured to hold 330 pax. It is configured 16F 80C 234Y.
SailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5986 times:
All 747-400s do have the new C class meanwhile (thus named 74P). Standard configuration is 16/80/234, however LH is able to do QCs (Quick changes, they take 3 hours afaik) to adjust the number of C and M seats according to demand...
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7839 posts, RR: 27 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4805 times:
LH Technik can change the seating from old C to new C within that time frame, inlduing taking out a section of Y class. They do that during regular stops, aircraft coming in from somewhere, as soon as pax are left they start with the work and the machine is ready to go after about 3 hrs.
However AFAIK the a/c stays in that configuration. They do not change "according to booking situation".
Tobi3334 From Germany, joined Sep 2004, 146 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4671 times:
According to a tv-reportage it seems to be quite common for LH to switch seats during turnarounds.
They said that it is worth the money and the time if you can add more C pax instead of Y pax.
But in the TLV case it seems to be the other way around.
Lp0815 From Singapore, joined Oct 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
There are 3 seating-versions of the 744 with the new business class:
16/52/310
16/80/234
16/66/270
744 with the old business class came in 3 different seating configurations:
16/64/310
16/78/274
16/99/234
LH 686/687 FRA-TLV-FRA is currently served with a configuration 16/52/310 (so is the case for 18MAY, 20MAY, 21MAY)
However, occasionally (according to demand) a different version is deployed on the route (for instance, 19MAY 16/80/234).
LH 690/691 is served with A346, configuration is 66/279.
From what I know of LH personell, it takes 3 hours to convert the 74P from one configuration to another, assuming the plane is in FRA. LH also has Quick-Change options on the 346s, but in FRA only. No QCs can be done in MUC
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