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AI To Take Delivery Of 777's In Late June  
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

OK, it seems VT-ALA and ALB will be around on the Everett ramp a bit longer. I had a long chat with AI CMD Thulasidas and while a lot of discussion points cannot be discussed here, this can. Air India expects the merger proceedings with Indian Airlines to be completed by late June, and the the first two 777-200LR's will in all probability arrive on the day the merger is formalised. These two aircraft will be deployed on BOM-JFK with the next set of aircraft being deployed on DEL-JFK.
The new livery of the airline - ALA and ALB will not be delivered in the livery they are in - a livery that will go down as AI's still born livery but a brand new one which is about to be cleared by Praful Patel. The interior fitting of the aircraft in J and Y is almost complete and the Thales AVOD IFE system has been installed. However, the F-class suites are still be installed.
So photogs - catch those two planes, because those colours are about to disappear soon and keep an eye for the new paint scheme.


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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8340 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5921 times:
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I'm glad the 777Lr's are going home to India and not to Delta. Air India(n) needs them to be competitive, the are getting Delta and Continental nonstops from New York. These planes are deeply needed by AI for the next step in there strategic plans, nonstops to the USA should have happened with 744. United at one time(pre-9/11) was going to fly ORD to Dehli with a 744, if they could do it AI's could too.

User currently offlineMtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

way to go air india, good to hear that they are taking the delivery of 777 in june,

User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5711 times:

Cricket:

Were you able to confirm whether the story about the passenger seat manufacturer being responsible for the delays in the seat certification and/or delivery is true? Or is there a financing issue for the airframes that has not been resolved?



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5588 times:
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Very sad to hear that the colour scheme will be deeply modified...  Sad

I trully loved the one we saw on AI's first 77L.

I hope the new one will be even better !

FB.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Quoting Cricket (Thread starter):
These two aircraft will be deployed on BOM-JFK with the next set of aircraft being deployed on DEL-JFK.

So, is that the end of 744's going BOM-DEL-LHR-JFK...? Is AI giving up the LHR-JFK services altogether...?


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 4):
Very sad to hear that the colour scheme will be deeply modified...

I trully loved the one we saw on AI's first 77L.

I hope the new one will be even better !

I too, was thrilled by the "new" livery....sad to know that it's going to be stillborn.....and something tells me that the one that they finally come up with will be nowhere close to the one they're abandining.....hope I'm proved wrong  smile 


User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5387 times:

Any ideas what the new livery will be like?

BritPilot777



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30904 posts, RR: 87
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5309 times:
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Only one of the birds is in full (current) colors. The other is mostly plain (sans the rudder), so I take it they'll re-do the full colors one and then start fresh with the unfinished frame?

User currently offlineCHI787ORD From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5247 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
Is AI giving up the LHR-JFK services altogether...?

I hope not. If AI joins Star Alliance as predicted, AI will be the only airline in Star flying LHR-JFK.


Are any non stops to ORD planned by AI?


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5237 times:

Stich:
From your posts on here, it is evident that you pass by KPAE often and have a first-hand view of the ramp. But relying on Matt Cawby's site one would deduce that there are actually two AI 777LRs in full colors VT-ALA (ln 610) and VT-ALB (ln 621) and VT-ALC (ln 629) is the plain one.



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting WestWing (Reply 3):
Were you able to confirm whether the story about the passenger seat manufacturer being responsible for the delays in the seat certification and/or delivery is true?

Depends on who you believe, the fact is that the seat manufacturer was changed last minute ostensibly to 'upgrade' the service offerings on F/J seats. Incidentally, the first of AI's owned 744's has been upgraded and took its first test flight yesterday and should re-enter service next week. Don't know which tail number as yet, will find out tomorrow.

Quoting CHI787ORD (Reply 9):
I hope not. If AI joins Star Alliance as predicted, AI will be the only airline in Star flying LHR-JFK.

He claims they're talking to all three alliances, but closely with two. I know what he meant, given that 9W will probably announce an alliance membership within the next few weeks.



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User currently offlineAI From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 11):
given that 9W will probably announce an alliance membership within the next few weeks.

Do we know for sure which alliance is 9W joining. They seem some sort of cooperation/understanding with airlines from all alliances.

AI


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 11):
Incidentally, the first of AI's owned 744's has been upgraded and took its first test flight yesterday and should re-enter service next week.

Do you know what this entails?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30904 posts, RR: 87
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5105 times:
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Quoting WestWing (Reply 10):
From your posts on here, it is evident that you pass by KPAE often and have a first-hand view of the ramp. But relying on Matt Cawby's site one would deduce that there are actually two AI 777LRs in full colors VT-ALA (ln 610) and VT-ALB (ln 621) and VT-ALC (ln 629) is the plain one.

Yup I drive by every morning and evening, but admit I only get a real quick view of the tarmac. I was fortunate to tour the flightline a few weekends ago and thought only one of AI's birds were in full color, but I of course defer to Matt as he has the "real scoop".  Smile


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8340 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5011 times:
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What will happen to teh JFK-LHR part of Air India's route ? Will the service be operated from LHR to another US city or will all Air India LHR flights now go to/from India.

User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4973 times:

VT-ALA is in the air on a test flight. More than a month since her last flight so perhaps related to delivery preps.


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User currently offlineGojetset From United States of America, joined May 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4953 times:

Is there any word on further non-stop services?

and will the new mergered airline still be called Air India?

anyone have any pics of the new seats/IFE?


User currently offlineGamps From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4871 times:

Hate to be a conspiracy theorist - but I do wonder if AI/IA merger was used only as an excuse for the delay in taking delivery of planes (after discounting the hilarious last minute change of seats - "planes are ready, but seats are not ready")

India's current Civil Aviation minister's relationship with Jet Airways is well known and I suspect Praful Patel wanted to give Jet Airways the platform / publicity with whole rebranding / BRU hub thing. Agreed Mr.Patel as civil aviation minister has responsiblity towards all airlines in the country, but it is quite pathetic to see him openly downplaying government carriers and interfering with things like seat color / livery.


User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4849 times:
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Quoting Gamps (Reply 18):
Hate to be a conspiracy theorist - but I do wonder if AI/IA merger was used only as an excuse for the delay in taking delivery of planes (after discounting the hilarious last minute change of seats - "planes are ready, but seats are not ready")

A merger seems a bit much to simply delay delivery. They could have used a much more simpler excuse for the delay.


User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
So, is that the end of 744s going BOM-DEL-LHR-JFK...? Is AI giving up the LHR-JFK services altogether...?

AI will continue to operate on LHR-JFK. It will not give up this lucrative sector.



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4636 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 15):
What will happen to teh JFK-LHR part of Air India's route ?



Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 20):
AI will continue to operate on LHR-JFK. It will not give up this lucrative sector.

First even i thought this was a very lucrative sector, bt now with open skies kicking in, the yields on this route will just be diluted,

AI could use the freed up slots at LHR to operate more terminator services from cities like BLR/MAA/HYD etc... to LHR--not to mention that they already got an additional 6 weekly slot pairs at LHR from MH.

Also their intention to operate BOM-JFK and DEL-JFK, with their 772LRs.

Karan


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 13):
Do you know what this entails?

Revamped interiors and IFE across F/J/Y



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 20):
AI will continue to operate on LHR-JFK. It will not give up this lucrative sector.

AI 101/102 BOM-LHR-JFK is still AI's flagship flight.



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

I am hearing rumblings in the states regarding the ex UAL birds at Air India...VT-AIJ/AIL/AIK/AIR.... may not be around much longer....something to do with the lessor. Don't know the details...yet...grin. They are older frames with older pw motors which may indicate something.....

25 Gr8Circle : Does that mean AI will operate two daily flights to JFK?
26 Cricket : Three eventually - BOM direct, BOM 1-stop and DEL direct
27 VTNYC : Certainly can support the thrice daily, ask EK. AI hopfully will replace EK as the carrier of choice on the route. More competition, cheaper fares.
28 Post contains images Gr8Circle :
29 Karan69 : Since BOM and DEL are getting their own terminators to JFK so as to speak they either might drop that 3rd flight for lucrative LHR slots or do it fro
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