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CRJ-1000 Orders / Schedule / Competition  
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11817 times:

Just read a blurb on this super-stretch a/c; I am wondering who has ordered this bird (and how many frames). Also wondering about the schedule of 1st flight / production timeline, delivery...

What is the CRJ-1000 competition? The E-190?


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User currently offlineCRJ900X From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11803 times:

Hey DIA,

The CRJ1000 right now has orders from three customers for 38 firm order and 23 options.

BritAir: 8 firm orders ( 8 options)

Myair.com: 15 Orders

Unidentified: 15 Orders (15 options)

The CRJ1000 is a 100-seater aircraft so it will go up against the very popular EMB-190.

More info can be gathered at www.bombardier.com

Cheers,

CRJ900X


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11792 times:

Quoting CRJ900X (Reply 1):
The CRJ1000 right now has orders from three customers for 38 firm order and 23 options.

Excellent. that is more than I had would have guessed. any of those conversions from previous orders?

Also, any U.S. carrier orders likely? I'm thinking maybe NW would like to convert some CRJ-900s?


I look forward to seeing this ultimate stretch in future photos...it is one neat looking a/c. Heck, I love the length of the -900, I know the -1000 will be that much more interesting.



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User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 681 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11737 times:

How do the cost compare between the Embraer and the CR1000? (initial purchase cost, fuel, maintenance?)

User currently offlineCRJ900X From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11643 times:

Hey all,

The Myair.com order for the CRJ1000 was originally an order for 19 x CRJ900's, but stated that if Bombardier went ahead with the CRJ900X aircraft that they would convert 15 aircraft to the larger aircraft. I don't think that you'll see a Northwest order converted to the larger CRJ1000. Most U.S. carriers have really strict scope clasue restriction and I don't think that Northwest (or any other mainline carrier) would want to fly the 100-seater from Bombardier. This is not true with US Airways as they operate and have ordered a number of EMB-190 on mainline routes, but I don't think you'll see Bombardier being able to do that as well.

I believe the thinking of executives at Bombardier was that they were focusing this aircraft at the European market and that's where the orders have come from so far.

I also believe that the CRJ1000 is more expensive than the EMB-190, but I am sure others could give you a better Idea of initial costs, maintenance costs and fuel consumption, etc.
Some stats from BBD: http://www.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/eco...omics_crj.jsp?langId=en&crjId=1000

Just my two cents,

CRJ900X


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 11388 times:
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A US a.netter mentioned that Mesa might be the undisclosed customer for the 15 + 15 CRJ1000... but other a.netters highly doubted that. I wonder when the customer name will be announced, it might lead to more sales from competing airlines...?

I think the CR10 will be a great airplane, but in the end the airlines decide how nice they will be... cheapest seats vs nice comfy seats, no IFE vs PTV AVOD, cart storage vs full hot galleys etc.



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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11153 times:

Here is a little size comparison.

CRJ-1000
Length: 128' 4"

EMB-190
Length: 118' 11"

Boeing 717
Length: 124'

The fuselage width of the CRJ1000 is 2" less (8' 10") than the EMB-190.
This is going to be one looooong skinny bird which will not fit in any tighter RJ gates. Nothing but mainline size ramp space.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11067 times:
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Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 6):
Nothing but mainline size ramp space.

With 90-100 seats onboard the CR10 will be to big for regional ops anyway, pilot scope clause-wise, so perhaps it will end up as a mainline aircraft after all...?

Wonder if BBD will actively promote the rear-cabin service door they offer on the CR9 (with no success) on the CR10. That will give the CR10 a front and rear galley, like the E190, that can be restocked quickly and inflight service will be faster on short hops. Or has the rear door been scrapped because a rear galley makes the aircraft too tail-heavy?



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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10979 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 7):
pilot scope clause-wise, so perhaps it will end up as a mainline aircraft after all...?

Great airplane for Go-Jets...  Silly


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8205 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10887 times:

BBD is claiming the CRJ1000 vs E190 operating costs as -15%. This is key to why the product is being offered.

BBD only claims the CRJ900 is 7% cheaper to operate than E175. This suggests the E175 is a great plane, very hard to compete with.

The jump in costs and weight from E175 to E190 is big -- the E190 is heavier. So BBD is trying to offer the lightest aluminum 100 seater humanly possible. That is their selling point versus Embraer.


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