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Another Emirates A380 Order In Sight?  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7713 times:

Could be the third one !!

Easybourse has an article saying J Leahy is negotiaitng with EK for another A380 order , without disclosing the number of units he hopes to sell.
He also said the name of the first A380 VIP buyer will be revealed at the Paris Air Show + A350 orders.

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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

While I'd like to see another order, I doubt this a bit. Two orders within such a short timeframe? If Clark had wanted even more, he could have ordered more than four a few days ago.


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User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):

Easybourse has an article saying J Leahy is negotiaitng with EK for another A380 order , without disclosing the number of units he hopes to sell.
He also said the name of the first A380 VIP buyer will be revealed at the Paris Air Show + A350 orders.

EK would be wise to look at what happened to Jetblue today and realize that they are headed for the exact same place adding this much capacity without the organic growth to support it.


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7649 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
Paris Air Show + A350 orders

Typical Airbus, sandbaging orders until the airshow. I wonder how many A-350 orders they will anounce?



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7496 times:

As delivery slots get closer we will see more orders, esp once the A380 enters service.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 3):
I wonder how many A-350 orders they will anounce?

its anyones guess, but the likely ones are QR (80) and SU (22), followed by the other outstanding orders and possibly some all-new ones.


User currently onlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 3):
I wonder how many A-350 orders they will anounce?

I would expect @ 200, though as EI321 already mentioned, most will have already been rumored for some time now.


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6865 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7235 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
Could be the third one !!

Strictly speaking, I believe it will be the fourth!


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7195 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 4):
but the likely ones are QR (80) and SU (22), followed by the other outstanding orders

Yeah I guess QR, SU, and SQ could all firm up finally. Who would the other outstanding orders be that have not firmed up?  Confused

I would be surprised to see any new major orders.



As far as the thread topic... I doubt it! EK has yet to see one A380 delivered and the (4) they got I still believe were compensation for the delays.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6865 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7181 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
the (4) they got I still believe were compensation for the delays.

Didn't EK explicitly say that these four have nothing to do with compensation?

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
I would be surprised to see any new major orders.

I'd be very surprised not to! Put it this way, if Airbus can't start announcing significant and "new" orders for the A350 by Le Bourget then they are really in trouble. They've clawed back some credibility through the latest make-over of the A350 but it's time now to start lining up a list of customers that can at least start to compare with the 787's impressive backlog.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7157 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 8):
Didn't EK explicitly say that these four have nothing to do with compensation?

A carrier can say that all they want... EK's order history as of lately does not dictate just (4) new orders.

11/4/2001 (15)
06/13/2003 (21)


Quoting PM (Reply 8):
I'd be very surprised not to!

What carrier would be the new "major" order?



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6865 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7128 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):

A carrier can say that all they want...

You mean, lie?

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):
EK's order history as of lately does not dictate just (4) new orders.

11/4/2001 (15)
06/13/2003 (21)

Prior to the most recent order for 4 they had 43 on order. You've mentioned orders for 15 and 21. That's 36. 43-36 = 7. So when was the order for 7? And 7 is a lot closer to 4 than it is to 15 or 21.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):
What carrier would be the new "major" order?

I could speculate like anyone else but that's all it would be. We'll soon know.  Wink


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

Emirates Orders for A380's over the years:

30/04/2000 - 5 A380 + 2 A380F
04/11/2001 - 15 A380
16/06/2003 - 21 A380
May 2006 - -2A380F + 2 A380 (converted freighter to passenger)
07/05/2007 - 4 A380

TOTAL - 47 A380 + 2 on lease

-CXfirst



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6865 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7054 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 11):
Emirates Orders for A380's over the years:

Thanks. So another order would be the fifth!


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12380 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6902 times:
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Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
I would be surprised to see any new major orders.

Airbus? At the Paris Air Show? No major new orders? You will be surprised!  rotfl 

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
the (4) they got I still believe were compensation for the delays.

EK has repeatedly stated that the order had absolutely nothing to do with A380 compensation.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):
EK's order history as of lately does not dictate just (4) new orders.

EK has placed several small incremental orders for A380s. It was also stated when the order was announced that they took these four because the production slots became available. In the thread that discussed this incremental order, it was also pointed out that EK were still in negotiations with Airbus for even more A380s.



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6823 times:

Several very respected members have recently indicated that Emirates would be ordering additional A380's. The recent add on order for 4 frames was to secure delivery slots that had become open, most likely due to UPS and FedEx cancelations.

From what we have seen previously, those particular members have very good track record of being correct and usually know what they are talking about. If Emirates does place additional orders for the A380 it will most likely be at Le Bourget or at the Dubai Air Show.  Wink  Wink

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6784 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 14):
y, those particular members have very good track record of being correct and usually know what they are talking about. If Emirates does place additional orders for the A380 it will most likely be at Le Bourget or at the Dubai Air Show.

It will be very interesting to see what happens.



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User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1590 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):
A carrier can say that all they want.

Sorry but do you want imply EK lies to make Airbus look better? That makes a lot of sense.  Yeah sure

About the article IMHO that refers to the already announced order of 4 A380, some media is late. Dont believe we will see more orders from EK until EIS.



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User currently offlineBeta From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5824 times:

EK's insatiable appetite for widebody is simply amazing, and boggles the mind. I hope their growth strategy succeeds; otherwise desert parking would be very crowded.

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5707 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 4):
but the likely ones are QR (80) and SU (22), followed by the other outstanding orders

Yeah I guess QR, SU, and SQ could all firm up finally. Who would the other outstanding orders be that have not firmed up?

By outstanding, Im refering to orders or commitments for the old version. I would not be surprised to see a few of these signed up as XWBs at the airshow.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 7):
EK has yet to see one A380 delivered and the (4) they got I still believe were compensation for the delays.

EK has categorically stated that the latest order (4) has nowt to do with compensation. I believe the saw some empty slots and acted accordingly.


User currently offlineAminobwana From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5260 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
Easybourse has an article saying J Leahy is negotiaitng with EK for another A380 order , without disclosing the number of units he hopes to sell.
He also said the name of the first A380 VIP buyer will be revealed at the Paris Air Show + A350 orders.

I am surprised that nobody has asked these questions:

- Who is EASYBOURSE ?

- Where the Article can be read ??

- Is Mr. Leahy a credible source ??

aminobwana


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 22):
- Who is EASYBOURSE ?

- Where the Article can be read ??

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/site/fra_accueil.php

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 22):
- Is Mr. Leahy a credible source ??

Is a chief salesman a credible source of information regarding a story that airbus is in negotiations to make a sale?


User currently offlineLokey123 From Barbados, joined May 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5109 times:

Just got back from Toulouse and word on the street is that it is a pretty large order...in the region of 40 frames or so...that's just rumours though.

User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3865 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

Quoting Lokey123 (Reply 25):
Just got back from Toulouse and word on the street is that it is a pretty large order...in the region of 40 frames or so...that's just rumours though.

They discuss Airbus orders on the streets of Toulouse?! What a great place!


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

Quoting Lokey123 (Reply 25):
Just got back from Toulouse and word on the street is that it is a pretty large order...in the region of 40 frames or so...that's just rumours though.

40 more A380s? I doubt it.


User currently offlineLokey123 From Barbados, joined May 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 27):

40 more A380s? I doubt it.

so did I...but time will tell.


25 Post contains images Scbriml : I would too. Another 10-15 would seem to fit in with some of EK's plans (if they do indeed start a LCC off-shoot). I do have a vague recollection of
26 RedChili : This number sounds incredible, but you have to remember that EK is also talking to Boeing about the 748, and it could very well be that the negotiati
27 Post contains images EI321 : On a lighter note, would anybody care to hazard a guess as to how many (if any) A380 orders will be placed at the Paris air show, and with which airli
28 6YJJK : My grasp of economics is poor at best, and when you're dealing with massively expensive stuff with long lead times it's even worse. But a question occ
29 FCKC : Maybe some A.netters remember one year ago , i opened a thread saying "EK want a 100 A380s strong fleet". Seems we are approaching time , when this co
30 Trevd : EK is THE customer for Airbus. So I would not be surprised to see this linked to a 100+ order for A350's with interim A330's like they've done elsewh
31 EI321 : Where sis you heard this, their oldest A330 is from 1999!
32 RedChili : I realize that having such super-customers may be risky for Airbus. In the unlikely event that EK would fold, Airbus would lose a great customer, yes
33 Aminobwana : 1) I do not see this article or interview on thewebsite you indicated (I read pefectly French) ? If you could give me some hint ?? 2) No. He is not e
34 PM : EK said earlier this year that they were considering ordering new A330s to replace existing ones. They're unlikely to receive any much before 2009 so
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