Gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1129 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9501 times:
According to the interview with TK Chairman Mr. Karlitekin in todays newspaper, the airline has started discussions with Airbus and Boeing to finalize the order and the decision will be made in September. The order will be for 20 firm and 10+ options with deliveries starting in 2014-2015 according to the article.
Here is the link to the article(in Turkish):http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/6541938.asp?yazarid=41
What do you guys think it will be? Given the history of TK's orders and the political BS it could very well be a mix order. Opinions and guesses are welcomed.
1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9397 times:
Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 1): But I think this will be a political order , maybe Sarko and Merkel get them to order Airbus and get for it maybe a better chance to join the EU ...
It'll take more than a few planes to get Turkey into the EU. I can this order going either way really, both the 787 and 350 make sense, although it might make more sense to be flying the 330/350 than the 330/787.
TurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9112 times:
I read the article too... My vote goes for the A350 as it would make more sense to operate them side by side with the A330. However, TK might want to get a couple of A346s for NRT and JFK as demand for these two flights are usually very high...
Don't forget that there is still the long waited regional aircraft order!!!
On another issue, we will have a new government by September (wishing AKP will not be in power anymore but most likely there will be a CHP/DSP and AKP coalition). This might affect the decision as well....
I'd like to see TK order the A350, particularly the long range variant of the A350-900 and start non-stop SYD-IST flights thus becoming the gateway to Europe for Australia. Their direct European connections and options would beat SQ, QF, EK, CX, MH etc.
To me the A350-1000, A350-900LR, A350-900 and A350-800 make more sense than 777-300ER, 777-200LR (with and without extra belly tanks) and 787-900. But if they need a craft in the class of the 787-800 then Airbus has nothing to offer other than the A330-200 which TK already operate and could continue to do so. Maybe a mix of A350 and 787 could be plausible and politically pragmatic.
Stylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3055 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8848 times:
Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 8): TK might want to get a couple of A346s for NRT and JFK as demand for these two flights are usually very high...
I'm not familiar with all the technical facts but I don't think that the the runway at IST is long enough for a fully loaded A346. But correct me if I'm wrong.
In my opinion the decision is done already. TK will go for A350. If you look at their current fleet you'll see a huge Boeing short-haul and an all-Airbus long-haul fleet. And as some of you already mentioned political reasons may influence the decision very high.
MotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3374 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8818 times:
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 13):
I'm not familiar with all the technical facts but I don't think that the the runway at IST is long enough for a fully loaded A346.
At 9,842 feet or 3 kilometres, it should be. Because of its increased power to weight ratio (when compared with the 200 and 300 series) its performance is better and a full A343 has no problems at IST (as far as I know).
OldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3634 posts, RR: 66
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8573 times:
Quoting EI321 (Reply 20): Im pretty sure that if you order an A3510 or 773ER now, you can secure slots for them in 2015.
Pretty sure about the 773ER, not sure about the A3510 given its lack of definition and program commitment. Even assuming that A3510 is wildly popular, TK could be out of luck if they delay their decision and the early line positions are sold out, vis-a-vis carriers ordering the 787 today.
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