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Jazz CRJ Gear Collaps At Pearson  
User currently offlineKearney From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 12575 times:

A jazz flight from Moncton NB to Tronto Pearson ON is on the runway with its gear collapsed, anyone have any more information?

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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 12574 times:

Hope everyone is ok!!!


Trekster


User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1364 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 12432 times:

Any new information?

Cal  airplane 



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User currently offlineYYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12390 times:

According to City Pulse News, the Jazz CRJ arriving from Moncton New Brunswick to Toronto Pearson International, landed on runway 6R, at approximately 12:30 PM. The aircraft had 37 pax and 3 crew on board. As the aircraft taxied off the runway the left main gear collapsed. The aircraft came to a stop on the taxi way. No reported injuries to pax or crew. As of 5:00 apprears that the aircraft is still parked on the taxi way. Transport Canada on scene to commence the investigation.

User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1364 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12305 times:

Quoting YYZ757FAN (Reply 3):

Thanks for the update. I was under the impression it collapsed on landing.

Cal  airplane 



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12282 times:

According to AC flight info, AC8911 is estimated into YYZ at 1240. It hasnt arrived at the gate yet.

And I thought Newark was bad getting from the runway to the gate!!


User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12272 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JZA8911

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12265 times:

I thought, from my viewpoint at the west end of the airport that it was the right gear that had collapsed. The plane, a red CRJ 100, appeared to be tilted to the right. However it was more than a mile away so I could very well be wrong.

The passengers, maybe crew also, were taken in 2 buses to the infield terminal, along with an ambulance, presumably to be checked for possible injuries.

The flight involved was Jazz #8911. It was too far away to get the registration.


User currently offlineLHBSL From Switzerland, joined Mar 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 12228 times:

Hi everyone

Not the bestones, but the only pix i could do by taxi nearby...

Big version: Width: 1280 Height: 960 File size: 528kb


Big version: Width: 1280 Height: 960 File size: 504kb


Regards Chris


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12194 times:
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Quoting LHBSL (Reply 8):
Not the bestones, but the only pix i could do by taxi nearby...

Thanks for the shots, Chris.

It almost looks as though both mains collapsed....


2H4





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User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12163 times:

CTV-Toronto just had a live feed on the 6 O'clock Toronto News (we also get it here in WNY State)

They actually did a good job reporting, but really butchered the pronunciation of "Bombardier"

"The Bo-bar-jay-air CRJ-100..."


EDIT: CTV, not CBC...

[Edited 2007-05-21 00:15:30]

User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2789 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12143 times:

Captain to newbie FO:

" I said CHEAR up, not GEAR up !! "  Big grin

Shamu



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1364 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 9):
It almost looks as though both mains collapsed....

What would cause this, gear not locking?

Cal  airplane 



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User currently offlineDH8PU From Canada, joined Apr 2007, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 11989 times:

Apperently both main gear did collaps, however, they did not collaps during landing. Apperently occured during high speed taxi. The air craft was deplaned rapidly not evacuated.All Pax and crew are safe and sound


Cabin secure and doors checked
User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1606 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11895 times:

Quoting DH8PU (Reply 13):
Apperently both main gear did collaps, however, they did not collaps during landing. Apperently occured during high speed taxi. The air craft was deplaned rapidly not evacuated.All Pax and crew are safe and sound

Really?

I've seen it from a few angles now (on-site), and it didn't appear that way to me... but.. again i'm not 'in the know' so ..

1011yyz



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User currently offlineQ400 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11870 times:

Quoting Skoker (Reply 10):

They are pronounciating Bombardier in French.


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11852 times:

Quoting DH8PU (Reply 13):
Apperently occured during high speed taxi.

What do you mean by "high speed taxi"?



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User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11758 times:

Quoting Q400 (Reply 15):
They are pronounciating Bombardier in French.

I always thought that the French-Canadien pronunciation 'Bomb-bar-dee-eh' was also Anglisized the same way.


User currently offlineUAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2143 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 11751 times:

I smell an AD coming.... Wink

User currently offlineACJAZZAME From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 47 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11531 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 7):
The plane, a red CRJ 100,

The plane isn't red, its actually orange

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 7):
It was too far away to get the registration.

It's C-FRIL s/n 7051

Quoting FighterPilot (Reply 12):
What would cause this, gear not locking?

Will find out soon, but I'm sure Bombardier will come up with some bs story.

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 16):
What do you mean by "high speed taxi"?

It's a taxiway which is at about a 45 degrees from the runway and allows you to quickly vacate the runway.

Quoting UAL Bagsmasher (Reply 18):
I smell an AD coming....

There already is one! It requires both visual and NDT inspection on the radius of the gear fitting. This aircraft is notorious for cracks in this area.

ACJAZZAME


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11510 times:
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Thanks for the reg. number. I have a picture of it taking off here in Nashville last year.


Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineDC10sRULE From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11499 times:

Hello All,

Just left the airport and that poor CRJ was being lifted onto a flatbed truck to be transported away.

Since it is an older CRJ-100, I wonder if this aircraft will now be written off - or might it be worth fixing the damage.

I was not in the tower when the incident occurred but apparently the captain was very calm and the evacuation went smoothly.

I hope this isn't going to become another headache for the Bombardier public relations department.

Take Care!



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 11442 times:

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 21):

Just left the airport and that poor CRJ was being lifted onto a flatbed truck to be transported away.

Real planes can't travel by flatbed.  Silly

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 21):

Since it is an older CRJ-100, I wonder if this aircraft will now be written off - or might it be worth fixing the damage.

Does anyone know the damage involved besides the gear? Anything happen to the fuselage? With tail mount engines I'd assume they're safe.


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 11406 times:

Quoting ACJAZZAME (Reply 19):
The plane isn't red, its actually orange

Those Jazz colours always confuse me. To me the yellow looks orange and the orange looks red  Smile

Quoting ACJAZZAME (Reply 19):
Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 16):
What do you mean by "high speed taxi"?

It's a taxiway which is at about 45 degrees from the runway and allows you to quickly vacate the runway.

It's called a high-speed turnoff and it's more like 25-30 degrees from the runway.


User currently offlineSanjet From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9976 times:

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 21):
Since it is an older CRJ-100, I wonder if this aircraft will now be written off - or might it be worth fixing the damage.

They are already tight on capacity. I've seen aircraft in worst shape repaired. I expect similar for this bird. Was a low velocity impact so shouldn't be much damage.



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25 Post contains images Irobertson : My friend just said that this should serve as an example to people to keep their *#*$ seatbelts fastened until they get to the gate!
26 Post contains images N243NW : My guess is the greater lateral load on the gear during the high-speed exit was what caused the collapse. Interesting to see nonetheless. -N243NW
27 Post contains images 2H4 : Funny, I thought it was the result of using bizjet gear in a high-cycle regional jet application. Seriously, though....just how different are the gea
28 SixtySeven : I initially thought that, but why would both gear collapse then? With those two tiny little wheels so close together I bet they would have wound up o
29 Greasemonkey : The CRJ uses an internal downlock mechanism in the side-stay actuator. It would be interesting to see. I still would think that the wingtip would hav
30 ZBBYLW : Exactly, this is the "proper" way to say it, and a lot of people call it that in English. In all honestly I can not pronounce it the other way, its j
31 Post contains images UAL Bagsmasher : ACJAZZAME, I know about the current AD on the radius. I've done that one quite a few times. Gotta love wiping off the 2 inches of caked grease to even
32 Lnglive1011yyz : HAHAHA I've heard more than 1 American refer to them as.. a "Bomb-ba-deer". That's a person who drops bombs. Although, Bombardier in 'french' probabl
33 Robsawatsky : Could accurately be translated as "bomber".
34 CRJ 900 : Ran into one of the pilots who also does investigations of incidents/accidents at Jazz and he said the aircraft is already being written off.
35 ACJAZZAME : I see your a fan of that AD also!!! Sorry to say but it was a matter of time before this was going to happen. I saw it today and it was in rough shap
36 MattRB : I've heard this as well. Shop talk tonight in the crew room suggested that there was a good deal of internal damage to the wings as well as the contr
37 2MNYPPL : Just to clarify the comment about the radius cracks. I've never seen one and can't recall the last time one was found. The AD, however, is irrelevant
38 Viscount724 : "Bomb-ba-deer" is the usual English pronunciation (even in Canada) of the bomber crew member who drop the bombs. However, since the name of the compa
39 SixtySeven : Well here's a twist to the story. The landing gear failed in the "aft" position. They did not fail towards the inboard as a normal retraction or side
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