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AA's Service To Dusseldorf (DUS), Germany  
User currently offlineAA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Can you please tell me about AA's former service to DUS? How long did it last? Equiptment? When did it start? Why did it fail?

Thanks,
AA@DFW

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User currently offlineBlink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

The flight to DUS was a 767-200 and I believe it was from Chicago. I think it started in the late 80's and ended around '93. I think it fell due to poor load factors. I think they should restart that route from ORD again to see how well it does.
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

The DUS service was a 762, service was dropped due to economics, simply not enough people on the planes. Remember, around the time the service was dropped UA and LH were beginning their alliance, which eventually grew into the Star Alliance, and they now fly the route and can "hub" at both origin and destination. Did you know that AA also flew to Hamburg in the late 80s; one of the US-BRU flights continued on to Hamburg, also a 762 service, also dropped due to lack of interest.

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Maybe the best way to find out if it would be succesful is to see how UA's DUS flight is now. I think that it is on a 767-300. 5 of my family members took this flight since it was the only flight available last June for mileage awards on the way to Paris. They then took a UA codeshare from DUS-CDG. So, does DUS only work well for United b/c of the codeshare options with Lufthansa? And if that was the main reason, then why not Munich instead. Bigger city, bigger LH hub.
-Aio86


User currently offlineRizzibird From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 232 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Aio86:
Concerning your questions about UA's DUS flight, I don't know for sure about its profiatability but I guess it must be alright as it has been running since the mid 90s. Just look at UA's destinations in Europe, the number is less than AA's, DL's and CO's. UA does not serve routes just because of prestige, it's all about money for them. If DUS wasn't profitable, UA would not serve it! The LH code-share is one factor for the flight being successful but it's not the only one. CO, for example, has a flight to EWR is competition to LH and it works without a hub is DUS. Even though not being as big as other cities like MUC, DUS is located in the most densly populated German state of Northrhein-Westphalia (more than 15Mio. people), so the flight gets passengers from many towns besides DUS. I would not support your suggestion to move the UA flight to MUC because LH and UA already have flights from MUC to EWR, IAD, ORD, SFO and LAX(starting next summer) so there is no need for another UA service to ORD. Just my thoughts.

Rizzibird


User currently offlineKMIA From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Rizzibird, I agree, as far as I know, CO is very succesful with the DUS destination.

User currently offlineNightfly From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

As mentioned, UA has the advance of their hub at Chicago, further UA leeds the flight over ORD to SFO.

In my opinion AA would have success with a flight from DUS to DFW as they have their own hub there. And there are so much possibilities of further stops on this route, perhaps at PHL or ORD. AA should think about this.

best regards,
nightfly


User currently offlineNightfly From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

 ...sorry, I said UA flies DUS-ORD-SFO, thats wrong, they fly DUS-ORD-LAX.

nightfly


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

But I'm sure UA will start a new service to IAD soon because for German travellers the flight connection in ORD is not very well...

User currently offlineRizzibird From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 232 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

What's wrong about the ORD flight? It must be the timing! The flight leaves too late (15:30) making connections in ORD harder. They should shift it back to the morning as it used to be!! The destination ORD should work better than IAD as UA has more flights to connect from that airport. I can't foresee DUS-IAD flights replacing the DUS-ORD connection!

Rizzibird


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

I don't mean that the UA connection to ORD will be cancelled. UA will surely start a second daily route to their second hub in the morning (I guess). For european travellers it'll be a better way to travel.



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