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Tel-Aviv To Tokyo. Why Not?  
User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

I wonder why there aren´t any flight between NRT and TLV. Not specific traffic demand??

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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1851 times:

No Jews in Japan.

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1848 times:

That is a good question I was wondering myself. I bet that a lot of you don't know (or maybe you do) that Israel is an important country that produces high-tech electronics. Both for computers that are used for every day life purposes and high tech military procedures. The USAF send a lot of it's F-15/16s to the IAF (Israeli Air Force) to update it with new equipment that they specially design. Only problem is that since Israel gets so much economic funding from the US (and not from many other sources, (except for philanthropic Jews around the world) that they have to get permission to sell things from the US. For example earlier this year they wanted to sell something that was some sort of anti aircraft gun. They were denied privaleges to sell it to China but the US allowed them to sell it to Taiwan. The same goes for them buying airbus aircraft. The US won't allow them to buy from any other company besides Boeing, McDonell Douglas, Lockheed, Raytheon etc, the US threatened to stop supporting them financially when some sort of press was realeased about them interested in I think the A320, but I guess the US govt has the right. But I'm off subject now... sorry. Japan is also a huge technology capital, as is Taiwan. Maybe a continuation on their 742 Hong Kong flight to Taipei would be a good idea. And isn't Osaka more of the technology capital rather than Tokyo (Although Tokyo is a lot bigger). Maybe they'd go there instead. Maybe if they did that it would be a good time to start leasing one of the World Airlines MD-11s again, huh?
I agree with your question dellatorre, please fill us in if anyone has specific info. Thanks!


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User currently offlinePearson From Indonesia, joined Jul 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Woohoo!! I'm off to Japan next year. Whilst I have not researched the situation as regards why EL AL doesn't serve Japan (in all probability NRT), I do know that Egyptair serves NRT twice-weekly, using the 777.


User currently offlinePakistania From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

According to an article in 'TIME' magazine in the early 90's EL AL was going to initiate a service to Tokyo, why didnt they?

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User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

I still looking for a reasonable answer.

User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Simple as this, I don't believe that EL AL has any planes with the range to fly that route. I could be wrong though.
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Where does LY serve in the Orient?

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

On the asian continent El Al serves Tel Aviv (duh!), Amman, Tashkent, Delhi, Bombay/Mumbai, Hong Kong, Beijing and Beijing. I do believe that they do have the range to fly to Tokyo if they can make it to Beijing. Or maybe a 1 stop would be an idea. Their 747s should be able to go the distance and maybe the 767s aswell. Hey SAS can do it...

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

By the way just for info El Als services to Asia are on the following aircraft:
Bombay:767-200
Beijing: 767-200
Hong Kong: 747-200
Bangkok: 747-200
New Delhi and Tashkent I think are no longer serviced.
The flights to Amman are on 737-200s

All of these flights are non-stop.

Sorry that none of my posts have gotten you an answer to your question Dellatorre  


User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Isn't the problem that EL AL planes can not fly over most of the territory in the middle east. Their flights to S and SE Asia go south over the red sea and then up over the Indian Ocean. And the flights to PEK and tashkent go nw over greece and then head east iver the black sea to their destination. Perhaps due to this circuitious routing they don't have aircraft with both proper range and capacity.

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Thats possible, I don't believe Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and Syria are all that excited about having Israeli planes in their midst....

BTW: Where is Tashkent?


User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

Tashkent is in Uzbekistan.

User currently offlineSn330 From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 16 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

El Al still serves Tashkent. They have a comprehensive code-sharing agreement with Uzbekistan Airlines, and I think they might own a percentage of the carrier (No joke).

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Uzbekistan visits JFK every so often with 767-300ERs and A310s. Can't be that backward of an airline.

Where do they refuel in Europe?


User currently offlinePearson From Indonesia, joined Jul 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

TAS's great; a Russian paradise!!

Perhaps I'll save up and visit a range of CIS countries, eg Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, etc. Fascinatingly interesting!


User currently offlineAdvancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Perhaps someone from Israel or a neighboring
country could give us the answer?
Regards,
Advancedkid


User currently offlineVictor Hotel From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Rai wrote "no Jews in Japan" there is actually quite a few here, that I know so there definately is some Jewish people in Japan, I happen to be friends with some.
VH


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Uzbek operates TAS-KBP-JFK

KBP = Kiev, Ukraine


User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1691 times:

Just a thing about "no Jews in Japan..." It's almost an understatement to say that there are no Jews in most countries (accept many of the Arab nations). After WWII, after Hitler's reign of terror the Jews of Germany and other European countries fled to wherever they could get to. That's the only reason that there are Jewish populations in Eastern Asian, Australiasian, and Latin American countries. Jews in places in Northern Africa and N. America (like myself) we can thank the Spanish/Portugeese Inquisitions and the Russian Czarsist leaders. So the reasons of El Al not flying somewhere most likely does not have to do with how many Jews live there.
BTW, I can ask my Physics teacher who was an engineer that worked for El Al a few years back about this topic.
-Aio86


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

I read in Aviation Week in March this year that they are looking to fly to Osaka with their new 777s. El Al will get their first 777-258 ER in Jan 01 and will first fly to HKG. TLV-HKG with 777 starts 28 Mar 01. No news when Osaka service will start. The777Man


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