LIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5464 times:
According to finfacts.com American Airlines is to stop flying from Shannon this autumn. AA has already cancelled its flights from Shannon to Boston the last summer.
American Airlines has confirmed that it is ending its transatlantic service from Shannon from the autumn. It currently operates a daily service to Chicago. The company confirmed that the decision is related to the 'open skies' policy, which is aimed at opening up the transatlantic aviation market.
Boysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5407 times:
It is a smart move and will become a common one following open skies. Airlines will no longer have to serve SNN in order to serve DUB as is my understanding at present. I also believe that it could be a good move for ORK. I am sure that CO could make a daily B752 EWR-ORK work.
EI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5026 times:
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3): Newark-Cork is a good one. Will SNN have any transatlantic services left? I think EI will still fly SNN-BOS or JFK in the summer months
I'm sure SNN will have several. EI, CO and DL all look good right now to continue operations, which is still great for an airport to size of SNN. With less competition soon, they'll presumably make some more profit also. We'll know for sure in Summer 2008 I suppose.
Cork will definitely hope to get something in 2008 from all this change.
It was inevitable from the day they began their Irish route(s) IMO.
Quote: Quoting ShannoninAMA (Reply 1): Watch everyone else slaughter each other in that market (once open skies takes effect), dont get slaughtered with them
US will be leaving also. As for DL & CO we will see. I think CO are the most likely to stay with a 752. As for AC, with the new Irish/Canadian o/s deal I think they will leave SNN also, but on the plus side a year round DUB route might become a reality.
Quote: Quoting Boysteve (Reply 2): It is a smart move and will become a common one following open skies. Airlines will no longer have to serve SNN in order to serve DUB as is my understanding at present
Yes, the rule was such that for every two flights that went direct through DUB, one had to go through SNN. It has now been temporarily scaled back from that 2:1 basis to 3:1, and will be gone completely after the 2007 season.
Quote: Quoting Boysteve (Reply 2): I also believe that it could be a good move for ORK. I am sure that CO could make a daily B752 EWR-ORK work
ORK is geographically and demographically better suited as a hub than SNN, but SNN has better runway and ATC infrastructure (ORK is not a CATIII airport). I think ORK would make a good 752 route from Newark, but EI's A330s apparently have issues with the turning circle on Corks runway.
Quote: Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3): Will SNN have any transatlantic services left? I think EI will still fly SNN-BOS or JFK in the summer months
EI will retain some SNN services (likely JFK & BOS) for the foreseeable future as far as I am aware. I personally believe that they would prefer to move the SNN US routes to their ORK mini-hub but as I stated, there are compatibility issues with the A330 at ORK.
ORK has a nice new terminal which will hopefully help to attract the likes of CO.
After years of contributing to the idealogical straightjacket surrounding DUB's l/h potential, SNN and its 'stopover' is finally seeing its demise at the hands of economic reality. Ive nothing against SNN, I just feel the potential for new routes between Ireland and Nth America has been wasted for years on this airport. SNNs future lies in the short haul market.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4728 times:
CO is staying: CO actually makes money with its EWR-SNN service and will continue to operate the route on a year round basis with a 752. With AA and other airlines pulling out of SNN, CO will continue to do well with the route. As for Cork, could happen, stay tuned.
FLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4698 times:
Predict that this will be the last summer of AC seasonal service stopping at SNN in favour of YYZ/DUB/YYZ. Furthermore, wouldn't be at all surprised if SNN is axed at some point through the summer program.
Pizzaandplanes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4644 times:
CO is obviously not sharing their secret to success on the trans-Atlantic using 757's. AA on the other hand just doesn't know where to send their 757's. In this case its not SNN. Perhaps it will be a new European destination hopefully.
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 10): CO is staying: CO actually makes money with its EWR-SNN service and will continue to operate the route on a year round basis with a 752
I'm amazed that, when I need to get away to Europe, and I want to go cheap, EWR-SNN is usually a fairly good deal...I've seen it for about $350 with taxes, r/t, in the off season. Still haven't taken it, but I have been tempted to. But instead, I get to go to Ireland on work, and into Dublin for free...better yet.