Sspontak From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 467 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 24240 times:
I wonder if pilots routinely let passenger know beforehand what type of landing they will be experiencing. This certainly is not a typical landing that most passengers experience. I might freak out a little if I did not know this ahead of time. I have friends in Honduras and I hope one day to experience this approach.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4929 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 24071 times:
Don't know if that's normal or not but it looked like he passed way too close to the trees! I imagine It seems scarier to look at this than being on the plane? The other thing that came to mind is that the place looks like a spotter paradise! Kai Tak of the Americas!
Insane? Not much more than landing there in the first place
I recall that landing (TGU) in a DC9 back in '95....looks like not much has changed. I don't know whether or not it's true, but it sure felt like the '9s had to cut the corner a little closer than the 320s do. We landed on a day with rapidly changing conditions, went thru customs (where you pay to get your luggage back) and then I sat airside for about 45 minutes watching AA, Continental, and TACA take turns dodging that hill in the winds as the ceiling crept down. That's about all I could stomach...I saw one crash at an EAA show (a homebuilt), that's one more than I ever want to see. I'm sure that the statistics there aren't as bad as the impression is when watching the landings. I also have a lot more respect for international pilots after that flight, it makes following the Potomac into DCA look easy by comparison. We were one of the last flights out on the short hop to SAP.
This vid also brings back fond memories of watching the 727s rounding the bend...still my favorite commuter, and sorely missed.
Oh, yeah, that AA pilot looks like he was a bit low on final, or else he was winning a bet. It would be interesting to talk to the person who filmed this and find out why only this landing is posted...was this just the "best of the day", or was this particular landing filmed for a reason?
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LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 23979 times:
That's TGU alright. That final approach is surely lots of fun!
And yes, he was way too low on final approach. If you look hard, you'll notice that he landed just a few metres short of the threshold on the displaced threshold area. Aircraft can only take off on a displaced threshold area, not land. Basically, the landing was botched (I can only imagine the GPWS screaming throughout the entire short final approach), though it's nothing compared to this:
TGU runway is only 6100 ft. and 3300 ft. above sea level. TGU has long had a reputation as one of the more dangerous airports. Note the "Caution" remarks near the end of the airport info page below: http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=HO73243
WhoopWhoop From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 23483 times:
Regarding the original video. Great footage but IMHO..a poor XWind landing. There appeared to be NO attempt to line up the longitudinal axis of the plane with the centerline. Ya know...Wing low..top rudder? The wind sure didnt appear strong enough to "run out" of rudder. He landed in a crab basically. Must be a military guy
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 21, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 23396 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16): Another good and rather long AA 757 landing video at TGU in 2003. It was the captain's last flight prior to retirement. Shows the complete approach,
Sounds like that was the FO's first time to TGU, as the Capt. is pointing out landmarks along the way, "There's the cemetary....". Fun to watch, and listen to, as the ground gets closer and closer. From the sound warnings, it would appear that the aircraft is about 50 to 100 feet above the place where the spotters were in the previous video!
Wondering who he was talking to in the first part of the Video, that certainly wasn't the TGU controller was it? Or rather the AA base there in TGU?
LAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 23158 times:
If you watch that video on FL350, the FO notes with the presence of the captain's wife that no job is better than flying except maybe that of a pornstar, LOL. If youre really interested, read the article on toncontin, its a challenging approach and there are a few amazing pics on the database as well.
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Alias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2643 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 23094 times:
Quoting Stirling (Reply 21): as the Capt. is pointing out landmarks along the way, "There's the cemetary....".
I was lucky enough to watch this approach from the jumpseat of a CO 737. The cemetary is one of the visual landmarks uesd for the approach, so announcing it may not be a sign that the FO was unfamiliar. It could have been a cue to let the FO know that the Captain intended to descend to a lower altitude since he had reached that point on the approach. After that is a turn toward a blue water tower on the side of the mountains, then the turn to final.
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