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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3654 times:
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Hi all,

here are the news flights scheduled for Barcelona Airport in Spain for this summer:

- Flyglobespan to Aberdeen twice a week with 73G equipment.

- Spanair, from July 03rd, twice a week to Algiers with 717 equipment.

- Vueling, from June 27, three times a week to Athens with 320 equipment.

- Delta has started today it's summer flights to Atlanta with 764 equipment. Daily flights.

- BA Connect has left it's Birmingham route and has taken by Bmibaby with daily flights operated with 733 and 735 equipment.

- Brussels Airlines returns has returned to BCN after the demise of Sabena in 2001. Is operating the BCN route with the 733 and 734 of Virgin Express and AR1 and 319 from itself.
Great notices to spotters!!! From July 02nd, SN is scheduled once a week (on Monday) an Airbus 330-300 to BCN!!! Has anyone the reason to put this big plane?

- Myair, from Italy, pretends to start on June 01st, two weekly flights to Bucharest Baneasa operated with 320 equipment.

- Air Nostrum will start daily flights on July 20, to Cagliari with CRJ equipment.

- During all August, we will see once a week, again, Airbus A310-300 from Royal Jordanian operating on Thursday to Amman.

- Clickair has announced daily flights to Edimburg from August 01, 2007 with 320 equipment.

- US Airways, like Delta, had started on May 11, it's summer flights to Philadelphia with 762 equipment. Daily flights.

- From past week, Adria Airways, has restarted it's summer flights to Ljubjana with CRJ, 320 and 734 equipment twice a week.

- Clickair will start on June 04, two weekly flights to Malta with 320. Air Malta will compete with XG from July 02nd with two weekly flights operated with 319 and 320 equipment.

- Air One will start flight from June 02nd one weekly flight to Milan Linate with 737 equipment. Any chance to see in BCN the 732?

- Last week, Air Transat started weekly flights to Montreal, via Malaga, operated with 313 equipment.

- Clickair will start on June 02ns, daily flights to Moscow Domodedovo with 320 equipment; Transaero upgrades its equipment in two of three weekly flights. Tuesday and Saturday will be operated with 742 equipment;

- Seems to be that Aeroflot has scheduled it's last TU5 flight to BCN on July 30. Sad news to spotters.

- Spanair, in codeshare with Lufthansa, will start daily flights to Munich with M87 equipment, on August 01st.

- From July 20, Air Nostrum will fly four times a week to Olbia with CRJ equipment.

- Icelandair has announced that on July 18, will fly a Boeing 757-300 twice a week to Reykjavik.

- Clickair will substitute on July 01 Iberia on it's flights to Rome Fiumicino; on June 01st, will substitute, too, to Iberia on the Venezia route.

- Atlas Blue will start flights weekly flights to Tangiers on June 25 with 734 equipment; Air Nostrum will start flights two weekly flights from July 23 with CRJ equipment.

- Air Italy will start four weekly flights to Verona with 733 equipment on June 01st.

- Austrian is in negotiations with AENA to add a third daily flight to Vienna...

- Iberworld (or Orizonia) will launch weekly flights this summer from Barcelona to Punta Cana and Cancun with both Airbus A330-200 and A330-300.

Adding direct flights to Fuerteventura and Santa Cruz de la Palma, if I don't remember badly, that's all.

Any other news will be welcomed.

Regards.

Gerard


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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Thread starter):
Air One will start flight from June 02nd one weekly flight to Milan Linate with 737 equipment. Any chance to see in BCN the 732?

Only once a week?



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3478 times:
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From August, twice a week with 320 equipment.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

How do they plan to compete in the market with such a limited schedule?


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User currently offlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Don't forget that airBaltic BT also does a daily service from RIX. with the B7350s.

User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

flyGlobespan's winter schedule reveals:

GLA-BCN daily
EDI-BCN 4x weekly

Gaz

[Edited 2007-05-23 22:59:04]


Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Aerolineas Argentinas is adding a new frequency on Mondays with A342 to EZE

User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3181 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

Do you have an update on the new terminal? When will it be operational? And do you have information on the proposed high-speed railway link?

The BCN expansion projects seems te be, together with MAD T4, LHR T5 and Berlin-Brandenburg, one of the biggest airport construction projects currently done in Europe.


User currently offlineTrinxat From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 7):
The BCN expansion projects seems te be, together with MAD T4, LHR T5 and Berlin-Brandenburg, one of the biggest airport construction projects currently done in Europe

Yes, and probably it's the one that is most uncertain about its future. It is assumed that more capacity is required as the number of pax is boosting, but it's not clear how to do it, by whom, how to leverage LCC vs. long haul operators, whether offering a hub to any of the big alliances, etc. etc

I am not optimistic by the news I hear over here. It seems the management of this project is as chaotic as usual, with so much political interference and unclear objectives.


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Quoting Trinxat (Reply 8):
I am not optimistic by the news I hear over here

I believe BCN has a great potential in Cargo more than in pax figures.

[Edited 2007-05-24 11:39:51]


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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2526 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

What about Clickair flights to Tunis? When are they going to be published? What are the schedules?


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User currently offlineMighluss From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 955 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3098 times:

Hi! Lots of news...

Quoting RAFVC10 (Thread starter):
Delta has started today it's summer flights to Atlanta with 764 equipment. Daily flights.

So I should go there to see it!

It seems also that the A330 is starting to be more a normal sight here in BCN! (wellcome summer!!! Big grin )


Hope to see you some day out there!



Miquel.
User currently offlineDanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3005 times:

how is Avianca doing on BCN ?

User currently offlineTrinxat From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 9):
believe BCN has a great potential in Cargo more than in pax figures

Cargo is growing, and pax volume as well. In the following links (in spanish only, sorry) it is stated that:

-BCN reached 30million pax in 2006, achieving 10.5% growth rate versus 2005 and ranked 9th position in Europe
-It has the highest-growing rate amongst the main european airports (those that host >25million passengers x year)
-It is the world's no. 5th in growth rate behind PEK, DXB and others in Asia (out of the 50 biggest ones)
-In Q1 07 growth has been close to 11%, so AENA believes it could finish the year hitting 7th in Europe, overtaking FCO and MUC

...and all this is without the new "terminal sur" that presumably will enter service in 2008

but on the other hand, most of this growth is done thru LCC and feeding other hubs in Europe, rather than developing its own longhaul network. In this sense, BCN only keeps a handful of intercontinental connections (7 or 8 as much), some even seasonal. This means that being the 9th airport in europe in passenger traffic, it only ranks a shameful 25th position in number of intercontinental connections.


CDRA report

La vanguardia - El prat es el quinto aeropuerto...

Also this information is available at ACI website www.airports.org


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

Quoting Trinxat (Reply 13):
-In Q1 07 growth has been close to 11%, so AENA believes it could finish the year hitting 7th in Europe, overtaking FCO and MUC

As MUC has been growing 12% in Q1, and outpaced BCN in April growth with 11% vs. 6%, this seems now highly unlikely, possibly in 2008 then.

What's the runway situation in BCN? MUC is pretty much full for most of the day.

SailorOrion


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

That Comité de Desarrollo de Rutas Aéreas (CDRA) is a joke.

Opening new air routes depends from airlines, and not from local politicians.

Again: BCN has more potential in Cargo than in pax figures. Please, remove the LCC's carriers and you will see only triumphalism in say It is the world's no. 5th in growth rate

El Prat airport is strong, above all, in low-cost & cargo traffic.



Time flies! Enjoy life!
User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

Quoting Danimarroquin (Reply 12):
how is Avianca doing on BCN ?

They are doing quite well.
The combined figures for AV18/19 for March and April show an average load factor of 80%. That is 76% for arrivals and 85% for departures. This include pax originating or deplaning in ALC. This is lower than has been, but the 767-300 has been used more than was the case in previous months: 5 flights were operated with 763-300 and 13 with 762-200.

Out of the 2 weekly flights, one is BOG-BCN and return non-stop (Sunday arrival), the other (Thursday arrival) stops in ALC on the eastbound. ALC was responible for an average of 79 arriving pax, and 49 pax departing on the Thursday flights in March and April. It is significant, that ALC was reponsible for 49% of the arriving pax.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

My wife and I flew CO EWR-BCN-EWR back in November, we were on our honeymoon and spent three nights in Barcelona before getting on our 7 day cruise. Our flight both ways was packed solid, mostly cruise traffic. In fact a couple days before we left CO was subbing a 767-400 for the usual 757-200 to meet demand, and this is November the low season.

From people I've talked to EWR-BCN has been one of CO's best trans-Altantic launches, successful from the beginning of the route. I feel strongly in light of EWR-LIS and EWR-MAD both going twice daily that EWR-BCN warrants twice daily 757-200 service, the demand is there as I witnessed first hand. Hopefully CO's EWR-BCN goes twice daily in '08.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 763 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Quoting Trinxat (Reply 8):
Quoting Joost (Reply 7):
The BCN expansion projects seems te be, together with MAD T4, LHR T5 and Berlin-Brandenburg, one of the biggest airport construction projects currently done in Europe

Yes, and probably it's the one that is most uncertain about its future

mmm. The only project well planned i see is LHR both T5 and Heathrow East. Good communication between the airport operator and the new user, BA.

MAD T4 wasn´t given to Iberia/Oneworld and the others until it was finished. They could propose modifications and everything had to be done via add-ons. Regional passengers who have to walk half the building to exit/board the plane. Baggage that takes an hour to be delivered. Domestic flights operated from the Satellite. Non-Schengen flights (IB's London and Dublin) operated from H gates from the main building instead of the satellite. Vueling operating form T4 which couldn't be a worst terminal for a LCC, where passengers un board directly to the transit area instead of the baggage hall (no connecting pax on Vueling)

BCN seems to follow the same path. I hope i'm proven wrong and LCCs and Oneworld stays in the North Terminals and Skyteam, Star alliance "&friends" go to the new one... Lots of thing will change until 2008.... Let's see

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 15):
Opening new air routes depends from airlines, and not from local politicians

Also depends on how much money politicians put on the table (or under, for that matter)


User currently offlineTrinxat From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Quoting Aisak (Reply 18):
Quoting SKY1 (Reply 15):
Opening new air routes depends from airlines, and not from local politicians

Also depends on how much money politicians put on the table (or under, for that matter)

Of course!!! Or do you believe the recent agreement between BRU and Jet airways is a 100% commercial decision on the side of the airline? Airports fight between them to obtain these kind of agreements, and therefore a strong political lobbying is much helpful

If this was the case in Spain, if AENA and the government would just do this for BCN and not only for MAD, then this ridiculous CDRA entity would not even need to exist, but we all know how things are over here....

I think the potential for BCN is to attract ME and asian airlines willing to use it as a stopover to the USA, exactly the same as BRU and Jet Airways. There are a few of them that still do not belong to any alliance (Emirates, Qatar, etc) that would just need that.

Of course we can't compare the interest that the belgian gvt has put in this operation compared to the spanish authorities.


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Is there any layout plan for the BCN expansion project?

SailorOrion


User currently offlineVivaGunners From Italy, joined Oct 2000, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

IIRC, Gruppo Marsans announced some days ago their intention to start long haul activities out of BCN.
I guess Air Comet are the airline, but maybe also AR will increase frequencies once new 332s will be delivered.
Can somebody provide more info about that? Thanks.



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User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

I can't understand why things which are simples can turn into difficult affaires.

Opening new destinations depends from airlines. If carriers find BCN profitable to be flown there will have intercontinental flights. Otherwise flights will be not kept or started. Why could be this difficult to understand???  Confused

Quoting Trinxat (Reply 19):
ridiculous CDRA entity

Nice you admit that  Smile

Quoting Trinxat (Reply 19):
we all know how things are over here....

AENA is investing a lot of money at BCN as well. Anyway, it's funny see how BCN is always thinking about Madrid.

Right now, BCN is a great airport with many low-cost traffic and cargo. El Prat must take advantage of Cargo issue as Barcelona's port is among the biggest of Mediterranean Sea. But I don't see BCN as a great intercontinental HUB for pax.



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User currently offlineVoLGio From Spain, joined Dec 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

What do you know about the new direct connection between SIN - BCN by SIA ? I read about it some months ago and sounds like SIA were very happy with BCN and are pretending to keep the BCN - MXP - SIN and add this direct route.

There's difficult to BCN to get stronger, IBE has betted for MAD to be the connector with South America, but as soon as the recently arrived immigration makes more money, the market will continue increasing and BAR will have something to say.

I hope Terminal 2 boost the airport traffic, but it sounds no really good by now, let's see in the following months.

As good news for spotters, the town council of El Prat has decided to install 2 platforms to avoid the fences (like the one close to the beach for t/o in RWY25L) in the headings of RWY 25R & 25L.


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting VoLGio (Reply 23):
BAR will have something to say

Of course yes. I agree with that idea.

But not on the way some local politicians who have no idea of aviation business are thinking.



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25 RAFVC10 : Any schedule published until 2008. Two weekly flights with about 87% of load x flight. Regards, Gerard
26 Bullpitt : Hi does any one know what the C/J load factor is on those AV flights, because that's where the real money is.
27 Andz : I hope the new layout is better than the current one, I have flown through BCN twice in the last year and that terminal is not very nice, signposting
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