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AA Eagle To Begin DCA-XNA  
User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

American Eagle will begin DCA-XNA nonstop service on 9/5. Schedules will be loaded in Sabre this weekend.

American & American Eagle already have a pretty good schedule at XNA.

5x DFW-XNA (3xAE & 2xAA)
5x ORD-XNA (4xAA & 1xAA)
2x LGA-XNA (2xAE)
2x STL-XNA (2xAC)
1x LAX-XNA (1xAE)
1x MIA-XNA (1xAE)

It has never been easier for merchants to get to Wal-Mart.

I would look to see more flights from MIA and LAX in the future as they appear to be doing very well.

AJMIA


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Its all fun and games until an LCC comes in and someone gets hurt  Wink

Very good news for XNA though!

Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):
5x DFW-XNA (3xAE & 2xAA)

Dont they have more than 5x DFW... i thought it was more like 8-10, and they typically have 3x DFW mainline,

whats amazing is that AA at XNA is now bigger than AA at BDL....



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User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

On 06/14 STL-XNA goes to 3xAC

Did they pull another flight for the XNA-DCA or did they have an extra slot?


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

My personal opinion is XNA-MIA will do poorly unless there is a lot of Walmart traffic to South America/Carribean

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3917 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3):
My personal opinion is XNA-MIA will do poorly unless there is a lot of Walmart traffic to South America/Carribean

The flight already started and has been doing very well thanks to merchant traffic.



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3900 times:

Amazing the power that Wally World has on the U.S. Marketplace. XNA becoming a decent size airport... It still amazes me that Wally World can get management peeps to come work in NW Ark. Who would've guessed... (and Yes, I once had the unfortunate (i.e. boring) experience of living in Ark. for a summer)


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3890 times:

Does DL still fly XNA-MCO?

User currently offlineAamr From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3860 times:

Quoting MrSTL (Reply 2):
Did they pull another flight for the XNA-DCA or did they have an extra slot?

Good question, I would assume this has to be taken from their currently alloted slots since AA/Eagle didn't apply for this (or any new route) in the latest DCA slot application process that ended up going to FL.

Is there any source so we can read more details?


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 6):
Does DL still fly XNA-MCO?

No, the route was short-lived.

Quoting Aamr (Reply 7):

Is there any source so we can read more details?

The schedule will be published on Saturday. I believe the frequency comes from a cut BOS-DCA flight.



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User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 712 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3703 times:
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Now one can truly do a 1-stop/connx transcon - DCA-XNA-LAX on an RJ


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2679 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting Mikesairways (Reply 9):
Now one can truly do a 1-stop/connx transcon - DCA-XNA-LAX on an RJ

It's been feasible for years- through IAH on Continental Express  Wink.


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

I just don't see why they don't rename Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport to American Airlines/Wal-Mart Hub of Arkansas. They might as well. I know that AA has the Wally World contracts and will fly anywhere WM wants them to, but the airport seems to cater only to AA. After all, they are the only airline to have exclusive use of the majority of the gates. NW has access to 1 jetway, I believe, and thats only because of the odd DC-9 equipment sub. Meanwhile, everyone else is forced to use what I've come to term as "the Barn." Literally, walking through there makes me feel that hay should be stacked on the sides and cattle mingling through. XNA seems to have some extra cash to burn and decided to add a little bit to the airport, which I think is a great idea. Only downside is that, golly gee, it happens to be on the AA side of the terminal. Why don't they just go ahead and throw in an Admiral's Club while they're at it?

I travel through XNA quite often(thank goodness I don't live there, no offense to any Arkansas natives here)and just feel that they ignore the other airlines and what they have to work with. If your going to "update" the terminal, why not make it all feel like the cozy upstairs section of the terminal rather than down in the Barn, where all the airlines are forced to funnel their customers through a 1 door herding chute? From what I've seen, most of the traffic in and out of XNA is a pretty good size and more airlines may be interested in sending mainline equipment in if they had the option, rather than only being afforded with RJ jetways. Trying to nonrev into there is sometimes very difficult, so I'm looking forward to DL starting up FSM service this summer. I believe NW has the monopoly there. Anyone know what that airport is like, say, compared to XNA?




OttoPylit


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11631 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 11):
I know that AA has the Wally World contracts and will fly anywhere WM wants them to, but the airport seems to cater only to AA.

Honestly, as we all know, money talks. No different in XNA than in EGE, or anywhere else where one airline has for so long been so dominant. Naturally, that airline tends to get most of the airport's attention. Sure, AA/Eagle may get better treatment from the XNA airport authorities than competitors, but after all, they pay for it. They probably carry 75% of the people in and out of the airport, and thus bring in the vast majority of the PFC and concession revenue for the facilities there. In that context, it only seems fair that they get the nicest facilities, prime location, etc.

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 11):
Trying to nonrev into there is sometimes very difficult, so I'm looking forward to DL starting up FSM service this summer. I believe NW has the monopoly there.

AA/Eagle flies DFW-FSM 6x per day with RJs, double the number of flights offered by NW to MEM.


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):
Honestly, as we all know, money talks. No different in XNA than in EGE, or anywhere else where one airline has for so long been so dominant. Naturally, that airline tends to get most of the airport's attention.

Nor did I ever say they shouldn't. I never said they shouldn't get the most gates, jetways, etc. They have the largest operation in XNA and therefore should get the most attention. All I was saying is that, after you cater to the largest carrier, then focus on the smaller ones, instead of continually coddling the big guy over and over. After all:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):
They probably carry 75% of the people in and out of the airport, and thus bring in the vast majority of the PFC and concession revenue for the facilities there. In that context, it only seems fair that they get the nicest facilities, prime location, etc.

No, they carry about 50-55% of the revenue out of the airport. The other 5 carriers(DL, CO, NW, UA, US) carry the rest. Granted, its still a good chunk of change for one airline compared to 5, but one can't just ignore the others, as they rival the yield that is brought into the airport. Now, if you compared AA's presence in XNA and every other carrier flew 1 flight a day, your argument would be solid. However, most of the other carriers have no less than 7-8 flights a day.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):
Sure, AA/Eagle may get better treatment from the XNA airport authorities than competitors, but after all, they pay for it.

Can you prove that? Just being the largest carrier at an airport doesn't guarantee that your paying the price for anything. In fact, it sometimes means that you get special favors FROM the airport.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):
AA/Eagle flies DFW-FSM 6x per day with RJs, double the number of flights offered by NW to MEM.

I stand corrected. The one airline I failed to check to ensure my stats were correct.




OttoPylit


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11631 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3465 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 13):
All I was saying is that, after you cater to the largest carrier, then focus on the smaller ones, instead of continually coddling the big guy over and over.

I suppose that if the other airlines really are operating from embarressing shacks while AA gets gleaming gates, that is certainly unequal, if not unfair. If one airline benefits from investments and upgrades at the expense of competitors, then that is unfortunate, although I suppose that is a determination for XNA to decide.

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 13):
Can you prove that? Just being the largest carrier at an airport doesn't guarantee that your paying the price for anything. In fact, it sometimes means that you get special favors FROM the airport.

No, I can't prove it. Perhaps I should have phrased my initial statement differently. What I meant by AA "paying for it" was, in other words, they "earn" it. They carry the most traffic, so they earn the best treatment -- that's more what I was trying to say.


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

More XNA changes effective 9/5...

ORD-XNA
AA will pull mainline off the route.
Eagle will add 2 daily
Total 6 Daily

LGA-XNA
Eagle will add 1 daily
Total 3 Daily

LAX-XNA
Eagle will add 1 daily M-F
Total 1 Daily / 5 Weekly flights

I had a feeling there would be more flights to XNA from LAX and MIA. They new MIA-XNA flight is doing well and is usually 60-80% on weekends and 80-100% durring the week (my informal estimation). I imagine LAX and MIA will eventually go to at least three daily each.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

It would be nice if they could get US Customs & Immigrations so that AA can start up 777 XNA-NRT and XNA-LGW service.

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 15):

I had a feeling there would be more flights to XNA from LAX and MIA. They new MIA-XNA flight is doing well and is usually 60-80% on weekends and 80-100% durring the week (my informal estimation). I imagine LAX and MIA will eventually go to at least three daily each.

MIA-XNA is doing very well and the yields are excellent, but it will stay at one daily. I really can't imagine it getting a second daily, let alone a third. The market is not that large, it is just there is a lot of merchant traffic going to Wal*Mart, from both Miami and international connections. The flight is timed to absolutely optimize connections to everywhere except deep South America. However, those destinations can all be reached via Dallas.



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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 16):
It would be nice if they could get US Customs & Immigrations so that AA can start up 777 XNA-NRT and XNA-LGW service.

They might as well move their whole STL accident down to XNA.

...

I'm not being serious before someone flips Sh!t.


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