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All Major Airlines Have DC Offices?  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Just was reading through some DOT dockets and all of the major airlines seem to have DC offices as the address of a VP of Government regulations or a job like that....Are these VPs all based in DC, or in DC and the airlines' hub cities or what?

And how big are these offices in DC? I imagine they are pretty small...But they probably handle all government regulatory matters?

Any information is appreciated!

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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Most businesses under heavy federal regulation, will have an office in Washington D.C.
At times, it is nothing more than their legal staff.



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User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3807 times:

In most cases I believe that they are legal firms representing the airlines, or something of that matter. I could however be way off of course. If I am please feel free to explain.


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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5551 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
all of the major airlines seem to have DC offices

Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

Gemuser



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

In SOME cases they are just law firms, but in most cases they are an actual airline office staffed by legal and marketing personnel.

As has been mentioned, pretty much every major US corporation has an office in DC, staffed with at least a few VPs in government affairs and a slew of lawyers and lobbyists.

NS


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 4):
In SOME cases they are just law firms, but in most cases they are an actual airline office staffed by legal and marketing personnel.

Any idea how large these offices in DC are for the major airlines?


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

AF has offices in DC at : 1120 Connecticut Av. - NW


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 6):
AF has offices in DC at : 1120 Connecticut Av. - NW

Japan Airlines: Government Affairs Office (not positive about address but appears to be 1050 Connecticut Ave NW)
Northwest Airlines, Inc - 901 15th St. NW #310
Lufthansa German Airlines - 1130 Connecticut Av, NW
China Airlines - 1730 K St. NW #240
ANA - 1101 16th St, NW
Malyasia Airlines 1667 K St. NW
Singapore Airlines 1050 17th St NW #550
Royal Jordanian Airline 1660 L St NW
Taca Airlines 1776 G St NW # 103
Saudi Arabian Airline 2600 Virginia Ave NW # 903
Air India: Executive Office 1612 K St NW
Aeroflot Russian International Airlines 1620 I St NW
American Airlines Inc 1700 Jefferson Davis Hwy, Arlington, VA
(And I didn't realize that WN served IAD, but they have an office that based on the address appears to be at the airport)

(Some of these may be CTOs but the majority of the airlines listed have CTOs or other "service" addresses pop up for the DC area)



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

Look at Reply 7....


User currently offlineBNAtraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 394 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3258 times:
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Southwest Airlines Governmental Affairs
1250 I St NW
Washington, DC 20005

And yes, they do serve IAD


User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 803 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

CX doesn't have a office in DC. but for some reason, they got an office in Fort lauderdale, FL
interesting...



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

Quoting BNAtraveler (Reply 9):
Southwest Airlines Governmental Affairs
1250 I St NW
Washington, DC 20005

And yes, they do serve IAD

While I don't wish to hijack this thread into a "where WN should serve next" hopefully this office will work on getting some slots into DCA and LGA in the future



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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

Gemuser

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
And I didn't realize that WN served IAD

I think it has been over a year at this point.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Quoting BNAtraveler (Reply 9):
And yes, they do serve IAD



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I think it has been over a year at this point.

Hmm... Well that shows you how much attention I pay to WN! Thanks for the heads up/correction.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
Somehow I doubt that QF, NZ, BA, AF, KL, SQ, EK, LH, IB, TG, RG, AR, LA, AI, etc, etc ALL have DC offices!

The only one I'm not sure of is LA, the rest certainlt do. BA, AF, and TACA have rather large ticket offices downtown, but at different addresses than the lobbyist offices.

I have been through a number of these offices, and dozens of others like them. (We frequently do work for many of the property owners and/or property management firms) The leased offices are basically just reserved space for when needed. Even for VPs, the accomodations are not high-end, just a work location with an expensive desk and comfortable chair. The staffing varies among airlines, but most of the year they only have a couple of people (one only has a part-time admin assistant visit twice a week). When an issue gets hot on Capitol Hill, the offices pop into action and typically crowd about 15 people into a 6-room office, a conference room, and a few temporary partitions. The rest of the staff works out of temporary space at one of the many legal offices or lobbying firms downtown. (Now those spaces are nice!)

This might seem like a waste of funds when cheap(er) real estate is available a little furhter out, but in DC law is everything. The legal couriers frequently only serve downtown DC, and if you find in the 9am hearing that you need to file (or modify) an opinion by 1pm, you can't afford to get stuck in traffic for an hour. You've got to finish it at 12:15 and hand it to a courier who will have it on the Hill in 15 minutes.

Only airlines without any desire to fly in the western hemisphere might not want a lobbying representative in Washington. Filing opinions is the responsibility of the airlines if they want their voice to be heard in legal decisions.



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User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
I think it has been over a year at this point.

Not quite..they just started this spring.

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 14):
Hmm... Well that shows you how much attention I pay to WN! Thanks for the heads up/correction.

Not to worry...It's only 3 frames, for now focusing on connector flights to DAL



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32175 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 10):
CX doesn't have a office in DC. but for some reason, they got an office in Fort lauderdale, FL
interesting...

Latin American cargo sales. As with DC, a lot of airlines have offices in Miami/Lauderdale, even if they don't fly there, to deal with cargo sales to Latin America. Most of these offices don't have more than 3-4 people.



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