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AA Eagle To Fly DFW-ROW  
User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 735 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3488 times:

Quoting ABQ747, 05MAY:

ROSWELL, N.M. --- The Roswell City Council has approved an air service agreement with American Eagle airline for flights from the eastern New Mexico city to Texas.

American Eagle will start flying jet aircraft between Roswell and the Dallas-Fort Worth airport on Sept. 5.

The airline will offer two flights on weekdays and one on Saturdays.

More @
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/4774023.html

The schedule will be loaded into Sabre this weekend.
There will be two daily flights

DFW-ROW 1300-1345 EM4
DFW-ROW 2000-2045 EM4

ROW-DFW 0730-1000 EM4
ROW-DFW 1410-1640 EM4

It is nice to see a new market come online.

AJMIA


Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

This news came out a few weeks ago, but good to see they're following through. I'm surprised they're using ERJs, but I guess that distance is a bit of a stretch for a Saab.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11969 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 1):
This news came out a few weeks ago, but good to see they're following through. I'm surprised they're using ERJs, but I guess that distance is a bit of a stretch for a Saab.

That was a question I had because, while I sincerely hope that the market works out, I personally highly doubt that southeastern New Mexico is going to be able to support double-daily Regional Jets long-term. I just don't think the market is strong enough to support such high-cost aircraft in such an aircraft-short environment. I definitely think ROW can handle two daily flights to a huge hub like DFW, but I'm just not sure if it can handle ERJs. Any of Eagle's SAABs should be able to do 400nm, and ROW is just pushing that at about 380nm, so it would be a long flight - probably sowhere in the 2:00 to 2:15 range. That's a long flight in a 34-seat SAAB, but Eagle has done it before: they used to run SAABs on RDU-JFK, which was blocked at between 1:50 and 2:05.


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 735 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 1):
This news came out a few weeks ago, but good to see they're following through.

Yes, I tried to follow up in the original thread but it had already been archived so that is why I quoted it using copy/paste.

I don't think it got too much attention aside from people in New Mexico and airline geeks, but now that it is loaded into Sabre and the company PR is coming out hopefully it will catch on.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
I just don't think the market is strong enough to support such high-cost aircraft in such an aircraft-short environment. I definitely think ROW can handle two daily flights to a huge hub like DFW, but I'm just not sure if it can handle ERJs. Any of Eagle's SAABs should be able to do 400nm, and ROW is just pushing that at about 380nm, so it would be a long flight - probably sowhere in the 2:00 to 2:15 range. That's a long flight in a 34-seat SAAB, but Eagle has done it before: they used to run SAABs on RDU-JFK, which was blocked at between 1:50 and 2:05.

Well, it's getting partially subsidized by the local government so that might be enough.

Also, AA doesn't seem to want its Saabs flying very long distances anymore, either. They've converted DFW-SJT to all-jet, and only fly the Saabs on short intra-Texas and intra-California routes, so that might explain it.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11969 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 4):
Well, it's getting partially subsidized by the local government so that might be enough.

So was Eagle's DLH-ORD route. And as soon as the government subsidy ended, so did the flights. I suspect that is exactly what will happen with Eagle's DFW-ROW service if they don't drop the route down to SAABs long-term.

Quoting Ssides (Reply 4):
Also, AA doesn't seem to want its Saabs flying very long distances anymore, either. They've converted DFW-SJT to all-jet, and only fly the Saabs on short intra-Texas and intra-California routes, so that might explain it.

Their economics probably fall down on longer sectors that use more fuel, etc. That being said, I think that 2x daily SAAB DFW-ROW service would definitely be successful, profitable, and sustainable long-term.


User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 4):
Also, AA doesn't seem to want its Saabs flying very long distances anymore, either

Actually, the newest Saab routes are DFW-LFT, DFW-AEX, and DFW-MLU, which are also the three longest Saab routes in the system currently.

Eagle is frequently ferrying Embraers in and out of ROW for either some type of maintenance or paint. At first I thought that perhaps the need to get Embraers in and out of there a few times a week would justify the equipment on the route, until I remembered that there was a Saab there getting maintenance done yesterday, which shot my whole theory. This morning a Saab ferried out of ROW to the ABI maintenance hub.

We keep having to set up the ferries around YV's schedule to get pilots in and out of there. Now we'll have our own flights finally. We've had pilots nearly get stuck there when they forgot to pick up their YV tickets in Dallas before ferrying to ROW.


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