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UA To KUL? Possible?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3442 times:

UA had plans to start service to KUL back in the late 80s. Wonder why they didn't turn this into a reality.

Wonder if they will ever fly to KUL, let's say via SIN or HKG

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User currently offlineAzncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 3406 times:

I don’t think this route will ever fly. The demand for KUL very low yield, besides UA doesn’t have spare airplanes to fly that route.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 3383 times:

There are aircraft lying in Hong Kong overnight. They can do something similar to Ho Chi Minh City and Singapore

User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 3321 times:

Quoting Azncsa4qf744er (Reply 1):
The demand for KUL very low yield

Correct

And why bother via SIN if they can put pax on SQ? Even their SIN is not a non-stop flight, so a 2-stop to KUL will not work.


User currently offlineB777A340Fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 3292 times:

Quoting Azncsa4qf744er (Reply 1):
besides UA doesn’t have spare airplanes to fly that route.

I thought UAL had plenty of 744 to spare, so having an aircraft available to service the route isn't the issue. Maybe it's just not a high yield market as it once was. It'd be nice though.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 4):
I thought UAL had plenty of 744 to spare, so having an aircraft available to service the route isn't the issue.

No, they dont.

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Wonder if they will ever fly to KUL, let's say via SIN or HKG

KUL is probably not a priority for UA, US-KUL demand is not very strong and, as pointed out, yeilds are not very good, thus, UA has better opportunities elsewhere (such as the re-instated LAX-HKG service). If UA were every to fly to KUL, it would be via their NRT hub to maximize connecctions between the US and KUL.


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):

KUL is probably not a priority for UA, US-KUL demand is not very strong and, as pointed out, yeilds are not very good, thus, UA has better opportunities elsewhere (such as the re-instated LAX-HKG service). If UA were every to fly to KUL, it would be via their NRT hub to maximize connecctions between the US and KUL.

It's always possible they'll tag it onto a flight from the US into NRT operating on a 777-200 or even a 763, if rumors of 763 transpacific service (SEA-NRT) come true.

Just a thought however, doesn't UA codeshare with ANA on a NRT-KUL flight already, and perhaps also on an Asiana ICN-KUL flight?



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 6):
UA codeshare with ANA on a NRT-KUL flight already, and perhaps also on an Asiana ICN-KUL flight?

UA's presence in Malaysia is Kota Kinabalu with code-share operated by ASIANA.

ANA doesn't fly to KUL, they codeshare with MH.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
If UA were every to fly to KUL, it would be via their NRT hub to maximize connecctions between the US and KUL.

Northwest gave it a try but via KIX but they gave it up at the end.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 6):
It's always possible they'll tag it onto a flight from the US into NRT operating on a 777-200 or even a 763, if rumors of 763 transpacific service (SEA-NRT) come true.

Possible, but really not likely........the NRT-KUL-NRT is a pretty long run (about 7-8 hours each way I think) and the demand/yeilds are just not there to support the flight.

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 6):
Just a thought however, doesn't UA codeshare with ANA on a NRT-KUL flight already, and perhaps also on an Asiana ICN-KUL flight

I honestly dont know......but if this is the case, UA has even less incentive to send its own metal to KUL.


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24800 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 7):
Northwest gave it a try but via KIX but they gave it up at the end.

NW codeshares on KL to KUL via AMS, although the routing via Europe is rather devious from the US west coast.


User currently offlineAznCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
There are aircraft lying in Hong Kong overnight. They can do something similar to Ho Chi Minh City and Singapore

I don’t think there is any aircraft that remain over night (RON) in HKG. The daily ORDHKG continues to SIN, as the SFOHKG continues to SGN.

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 4):
I thought UAL had plenty of 744 to spare, so having an aircraft available to service the route isn't the issue. Maybe it's just not a high yield market as it once was. It'd be nice though.

You gotta be kidding me right? UA is so short of long haul aircraft right now it’s not even funny.


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
NW codeshares on KL to KUL via AMS, although the routing via Europe is rather devious from the US west coast.

Well, this is their alternative way to keep a presence in Malaysia.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
There are aircraft lying in Hong Kong overnight. They can do something similar to Ho Chi Minh City and Singapore

I seriously doubted any crews or even any passengers would fly a schedule like 1am departure and 3am arrival.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 10):
I don’t think there is any aircraft that remain over night (RON) in HKG. The daily ORDHKG continues to SIN, as the SFOHKG continues to SGN.

When ORD-HKG has the second flight, I believe that plane has a long wait at HKG, but I may not be correct on that.



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5293 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

When LAX-HKG restarts the aircraft will sit for something like 18 hours in HKG.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):



When ORD-HKG has the second flight, I believe that plane has a long wait at HKG, but I may not be correct on that.

That is a turnaround flight, in HKG for about 2 hours.


User currently offlineMAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

of course - perhaps this thread was spurred by this recent pic...
would be great to see it become a regular visitor...


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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

I sure as hell hope we see UA's metal back in India before we see this route, not that I think for one minute we will see it anyway.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
If UA were every to fly to KUL, it would be via their NRT hub to maximize connecctions between the US and KUL.



Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
When LAX-HKG restarts the aircraft will sit for something like 18 hours in HKG.

Wonder if they will fly the aircraft to elsewhere like DEL or NRT. Or BKK


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 15):
I sure as hell hope we see UA's metal back in India before we see this route, not that I think for one minute we will see it anyway.

ANA is looking for partners in India to connect Mumbai - Bengalooru. UA could give it a try for NRT-BLR...


User currently offlineAznCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Looks like once the 28OCT schedules take affect, there will be a B747-400 sitting around HKG for 18+ hours if no other routes are planned from HKG.

UA895 ORDHKG will turn for the continuation to SIN
UA809 SFOHKG will turn for UA867 HKGSGN
UA867 LAXHKG will RON in HKG


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Wonder if LAX-HKG-KUL or LAX-HKG-DXB will work. Or maybe LAX-HKG-DEL

User currently offlinePaparadzi From Malaysia, joined Jan 2005, 202 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting MAS777 (Reply 14):
of course - perhaps this thread was spurred by this recent pic...
would be great to see it become a regular visitor...

Sorry to disappoint, but the local spotting community suspect the picture to be a fake.

Nobody, be it a local spotter or airport staff, has reported seeing a UA aircraft there.And the shooting angle is not consistent with other photographs from SZB.



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User currently offlineJustapassenger From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Since VN will apparently delay its flights to the USA for a while, I would guess that UA’s third Hong Kong flight will go on to Hanoi rather than KUL.

User currently offlinePaparadzi From Malaysia, joined Jan 2005, 202 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 15):
of course - perhaps this thread was spurred by this recent pic...

The picture is now switched to HKG.



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 19):
LAX-HKG-DXB

Let's be realistic. What fifth freedom do they have in Hong Kong?

[Edited 2007-05-27 04:13:02]


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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

DXB is going to come, but out of IAD

25 United Airline : To my understanding, HKG-BKK (Daily back in the late 90s but was suspended), HKG-SIN, HKG-NRT, HKG-DEL, HKG-SGN etc etc
26 CHI787ORD : Ive heard this one before. Along with possible UA IAD-DEL (capital to capital) and IAD-BOM.
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