Tomascubero From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2005, 522 posts, RR: 10 Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3049 times:
Well I don't have the stats but I am sure this is the worst SJO has ever experienced in the last 3-4 years or even more.
All incoming flights have been diverted and as a result cancelled for tonight, leaving possibly over 2000 stranded.
Here is the list of the current status of all affected flights:
Copa 403 (E190) PTY-SJO: Flew PTY-SJO, diverted to PTY and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow morning (27th) at 6:30am
Continental 1796 (B738) EWR-SJO: Flew EWR-SJO, diverted to LIR and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tonight (26th) at 11:40pm UPDATE: Was just heared on CENAMER to climb and maintain FL290 after trying to approach at SJO, diversion airport is PTY and flight is cancelled until further notice.
American 2167 (B752) DFW-SJO: Flew DFW-SJO, diverted to MGA (Not Sure!) and there is no further information about its next attemped arrival at SJO
Continental 1499 (B738) IAH-SJO: Flew IAH-SJO, diverted to MGA and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow (27th) at 12:08am UPDATE: Flight also tried to approach SJO without success and has diverted, airport unknown at this time.
American 2141 (A300) MIA-SJO: Flew MIA-SJO, diverted to PTY and listen to this, fueled up in PTY, left PTY for SJO around 2 hours later and after two missed apps, diverted back to MIA! This is due to the fact that there were no hotel rooms available in PTY for the passengers.
Delta 247 (B752) ATL-SJO: Flew ATL-SJO, diverted to LIR and is currently scheduled to land at SJO tomorrow (27th) at 12:10am
Martinair 645 (A320) MIA-SJO: Flew MIA-SJO, diverted to MGA, flew MGA-SJO and is currently trying an approach to SJO after holding over PARZA for 30 minutes. UPDATE: Just barely made it at 11:36pm local time, landed.
Copa 795 (B73G) PTY-SJO: Flew PTY-SJO after leaving PTY around 3.5 hours on purpose and upon trying the APP to SJO, was notified via ACARS to proceed direct to San Pedro Sula (SAP) (which is its next destination after SJO) since the personnel at SJO had left!
Lacsa 623 (A321) SAL-SJO: Was completely cancelled and never left SAL for SJO, no word on its scheduled time for arrival here.
Mexicana 387 (A320) MEX-SJO: Was the only lucky flight which could get in with minor problems, landed at 10:25pm local time.
JOS (DHL) 214 (B72F) PTY-SJO: Is currently flying direct to La Aurora VOR (GUA) after deciding not to try the approach at SJO.
UPS 350 (B752) MIA-SJO: Currently cancelled at MIA due to WX at SJO.
FWL 123 (B763) MIA-SJO: Currently cancelled without further notice of replacement flight due to WX at SJO.
Still there are several flights as I mentioned above which are going to try to get in soon and I'll keep you guys updated, the current metar shows:
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2522 times:
Not having a CATIII ILS doesn't help either. I wonder when Alterra and CETAC will finally look into acquiring a CATIII ILS to at least allow landings at lower minimums, but given the bureaucracy asociated with that, it's probably not gonna happen.
This fog is somewhat unusual for this time of year (late spring). The fog is more common to see during mid-autumn (October-November).
76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 463 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2224 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4): Not having a CATIII ILS doesn't help either. I wonder when Alterra and CETAC will finally look into acquiring a CATIII ILS to at least allow landings at lower minimums, but given the bureaucracy asociated with that, it's probably not gonna happen.
Personally I think the high amount of upslope in the touchdown zone of runway 05 has more to do with that.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
Quoting 76er (Reply 5): Personally I think the high amount of upslope in the touchdown zone of runway 05 has more to do with that.
You mean RW07, right? And what's that with the TDZ in the area? From seeing the runway, I don't see any high slopes on the runway, or at least not as high as you say, but that may be just the optical illusion from standing always near the RW25 threshold.
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
PTY now a days isn't a good place to send SJO divertions.
For some reason, for months now, there hasn't been enough rooms available in Panama City and vicinity.
When it comes to hotel rooms if a Fr, Sa, or Su night divertion; MGA should do a better job taking the passengers than PTY.
Oops, sorry. Haven't been to SJO in a while. As for the upslope, it's mainly present in the first few hundred meters, in other words: the touchdown zone. Exactly where you don't want it. We always used to brief each other about this in preperation for the approach, requiring a much more agressive flare technique to avoid the typical 'carrier landing'. Autopilots can't see this sort of thing. Most of them flare at the same rate, no matter how steep the hill up ahead is.