Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7353 times:
In 1968 PA carried 710,867 GI's on these R&R flights. PA transferred two DC-6b's from the IGS service with seven crews to Hong Kong, and the fleet grew to more then a dozen ships along with 707's and 727's.
I have a pic of a DC-6b at Cam Rahn bay, and a 727-100 at Tan Son Nhut from "The Clipper Heritage" by Robert Levering, 1984.
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8630 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7154 times:
It was quite traumatic for crews to operate these flights, the return flights back to the war. The soldiers' wives would fly from the US to meet their husbands in the R&R destination, have a week together, then the soldiers would return to Vietnam. Pilots in the cockpit, preparing for departure, could see straight into the departure lounge and watch these heartwrenching goodbyes, and know that some of the soldiers really would be killed (they'd see the coffins on the manifest every day). Even though transferred to a modern day, hi tech world, there is something primeval and universal about a man leaving his wife to go to fight - this was the same scene as had been played out over the millenia of human warfare.
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Tbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6980 times:
I remember in the late '60's, early '70's the cabin announcements on UA from the mainland to HNL. They clearly stated that those meeting R&R flights should follow a certain routine. IIRC, there was even a special airfare to HNL for those meeting R&R. A lot of R&R personnel were at Fort DeRussy in Waikiki. All of the events in Waikiki always honored those R&R personnel. One of the biggest names honoring them was the late Don Ho. There were many tears in the audience when he and his female singer (usually Robin Wilson) would sing Kui Lee's "I'll Remember You." I'm sure many Vets will recall this moment - as well as those who loved them. A poignant Memorial Day thought. Aloha.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6948 times:
Quote: Interesting article re Pan Am's final services from Vietnam.
The direct link doesn't work - it redirects you to the main page of Panam.org.
It's easy to navigate, though. It's under the first of four categories, "History" - there's a direct link to "Pan Am History", and then scroll down to "The Jet Age". From that article:
Quote: In another humanitarian mission, 727s flew the famed Vietnam R&R airlift, carrying tens of thousands of American servicemen and women for R&R leaves in Hong Kong, Tokyo and other Asian points during that prolonged war. 727s departing Saigon took off at maximum climb angle to get out of range of small arms fire as quickly as possible but bullet holes were found in more than one aircraft.
Makes sense to have a high-climbout jet available...and after the story of the World Airways 727 Da Nang to Saigon, no doubts about their durability!!
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Levent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6929 times:
I am surprised not to see Vietnam to U-Taphao flights in the timetable. Does anyone know whether PanAm or another carrier flew on this route as well? Pattaya wouldn't be what it is now if it weren't for the American R&R visitors...
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 6131 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6655 times:
Quoting Analog (Reply 15): Is that sarcastic (as in they wouldn't even lift the curfew for us) or serious? I'll assume the latter. DRW does seem like a logical fuel stop, being halfway to SYD.
Purely factual. Since the Army spent a couple of hours billeting and processing arriving people in Sydney, arriving at 4 in the morning would only have meant waiting around anyway. Saigon-Sydney is about 3700nm, so fuel shouldn't have been an issue. I cannot remember whether the return flight included the Darwin stop.
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