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Airliners.net Gathering Yesterday  
User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3142 posts, RR: 7
Posted (14 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Hello Everyone,

Yesterday (Dec 9th) there ws an Airliners.net gathering at SFO. Myself, DeltaSFO, Trvlr, OH-LGA, Imkeww, Aviligator, SuperFly, RayChuang, and Chaiwei attended the gathering.

We met at 11am over at Gate 87A in the United Termianl. Then we headed over to the new termainal, and had lunch, as well as did some spotting. Some of us took pictures. I brought my camera, but I forgot film. Oh-well.

During the gathering, we talked, and got to know each other a little. We discussed many avaition issues, as well as many non-avaition issues.

For those who have not yet been to the new terminal at SFO, go! Its wonderful, and if you go above gates A9, and A11, there is a little coffee shop area, and there are hudge windows looking out to the runways.

The meeting finaly ended at around 6:30pm when DeltaSFO went to a X-mas party for the Delta Employees. OH-LGA, Superfly, Aviligator left much earler, but that was ok.

All togther it was a great experience, and I look foward to our next gathering!

Happy Flying,


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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

I am really really dissapointed I missed this. I had to work until 3:30pm, and could find nobody to cover a few hours for me. SFO is at least 2.5 hours from Beale, so I couldn't make it. Leave it to the military to screw up something I want to do. I hope there will be anbohter meeting sometime soon!

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (14 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

It was really cool meeting everybody yesterday. I hope we can do it again soon!!

Aaron G.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8212 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (14 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

Oh, we had a blast yesterday.  

I really liked the fact we can finally see those airliners used for international flights literally "close up," especially the A340-300 of SQ and LH. Gawd, whoever said the CFM56 engines of those planes look like glorified APU's weren't kidding.  

And yes, it really IS "spotters' heaven" at the new terminals. Seeing planes various planes taxiing around looks really good, that's to be sure.

One nice thing about the new terminal is that you no longer have a big traffic jam of planes waiting for an open gate. You get occasional traffic jams but that's because at times you get planes entering and leaving the A and G gates simultaneously. That was quite a sight for a BA and VS 747-400 to park at the gate almost the same time. By the way, it was a bit unusual that the VS 744 took off from Runway 1R instead of 28R.

One thing I did notice was that a number of 744's parked at the gates only used one jetwalk (the JL and CI 744's were a good example). You'd think they use both jetwalks to get people off the plane faster.

All in all, a darned fun day! We need to do this again soon, especially if we can get a tour of a DL 767-400.  

User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

It was well worth the loooong BART trip to and from Berk! Nice meeting my kinda people! (Thought it was funny how we had our 'airline humor'... what dorks! =P)

Peas out, I am locking myself in a damp, dark corner and sobbing oh so gently as I awaitthe dreaded Finals Week, also known as the gauntlet of death.


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (14 years 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Hey Hassin, nice to see you had a good time too.

I know what you mean about finals. It's no UC school here, but I'm still at a competitive private school, and a few bad grades can be the death of a student!!!   

Aaron G.

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Hey, sorry I wasn't in SanFran, sounded neato.

Oh finals week sucks. I have econ101 (micro) tomorow at noon. I'm so depressed.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (14 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

I had a great time!
Pleasure meeting you all and talking about airplanes. It was fun and educational!  
I can't wait for the next one!

BTW, Is there a cheap place to park there or should I take public transportation to SFO?

Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAvilitigator From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Hey Superfly,

RayChuang told me that he parked at Colma BART station for free, then took the shuttle to the airport. I think it's around $1.50, which isn't bad considering I spent $19 for parking 5 hours at short-term parking! If there's another event, maybe we can carpool.

David, thanks for organizing this event. It was nice to finally associate faces with names and to talk shop with people who don't think that I'm crazy for hanging out at airports.

Good luck on finals everyone. I was an Econ major at UC Berkeley and remember my dreaded Econ 101 Microeconomics final (Spring 1985) to this day (calculate the most efficient production output of corporation A given the following sales and output figures . . .).

The Int'l terminal, especially Concourse A, is wonderful for photos -- considerable unobstructed views of the large Pacific Rim and Pond flyers, and plenty of time to take the photos.

The food at the new terminal offers a decent sample of what Bay Area restaurants have to offer. Not bad for airport food, but I'd still stick to my favorite restaurants downtown for a fine dining experience.

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2646 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

The parking garage at the Colma BART station is free, and the BX SamTrans bus from there to SFO is only $1.10 each way. Enjoy! That's what I did on Community Open House Day.

User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

I'm nitpicking, but the SamTrans shuttle from the Colma BART is $1.10... A little under two more years and one'll be able to take BART down all the way to SFO!

Avilit-- althought I didn't get to converse much with you, it was nice meeting you. Hopefully you and I can talk more airline talk next time. It's nice to see yet *another* fellow bear here... that made 3/9 of us there UCBers... woot woot! Praytell: did you end up gettin g your degree in law from Boalt?

Aaron-- I can only pray for you as well. Let the study gods bestow upon you ever anti-procrastination and enhanced concentration spell... oh yeah... let's hope these same study gods prevent you from choosing the wrong path (i.e. going to Stanfurd)... fo sho'!

Alas, back to my corner.


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

When do you guys want to do this again?? Perhaps after daylight savings time begins so we can get most of the European arrivals in the daylight...

Imkeww: Just visited your 'website.' A "panache of epic portions??" Hmmmmm. So literally you are very large and flamboyant, no?  At least you're in line with most other web companies. You hype yourself a lot but people still can't understand what you do. Anyway, when's the IPO?? hehe  

Aaron G.

User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

WOW-- I'm surprised you were actually able to get THROUGH to my website. Most people say they can never get in. The consequences of free hosts offering unlimited webspace, does it annoy me much? No worry, I'll try and get a better host soon so you can see it in all its insubstantive glory!

Well, at least I'm glad you were attune to the 'aspects' of my 'website'. Mind you, I guess it wasn't effective as a satire. I built this site earlier in the school year when I was foolish enough to think that I had enough free time. Think again-- I haven't updated it since. Back to the satire part-- the site is merely a portal for my pursuits, which are a) mainly to start an ad agency, and b) mainly to start a film company. Ambitious and pipe-dreamy as they may sound, where there's a will, there's a way. When I get my business degree... So therefore wouldn't it be nice to portray my virtual corporation with such an auspicious and unsubstantive presentation?

I'm particlarly proud of the slogan, as it single-handedly embodies the ludicrousness of self-exalting catchphrases in contemporary advertising. I also like to think I'm the exact opposite; small (physically short), and coolly understated (probably not, I'm a goof). (You've seen me in person now!)

If there's one thing you must know about me, it's that you musn't take me very seriously! =P


User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1771 times:


P.S. I urge you to use E-trade and get in on my IPO... it will come as soon as the Dow reaches 10000 again (ha!)... some stock humour for you


User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Boy, now I look stupid. I meant when the Dow reached 11000 again. ; )

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Yes... the whole affair was quite enjoyable.

Avilitigator will someday be a Delta pilot.

ILUV767 will someday be a United FA.

Imkeww's advertising firm will someday hold the Delta account.


It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

I definately had a good time, but I had to leave around 4pm so I could catch the buses back to Petaluma for a Christmas party. Leave it up to SamTrans to make me a half-hour late into SF so ending up being a half hour late to the christmas party (arrived 6:30pm) But the SFO roundtrip cost me $10.10, better than the airporters' $25-30 roundtrip. Comparable travel time too.

ILUV767 will for sure be a United FA  

I'd like to work at SFO when I graduate in June, hopefully as a CSA. I think later on in life I'd like to be a fleet planner or flight ops person, maybe progressing on to be a mid-level executive with either a oneworld carrier or Delta.

Oh that reminds me DeltaSFO, I have friends who will be flying from SFO to ATL on Delta soon, I only remember right now that they are returning Christmas Day. I told them to say hi if they meet "Pat the new guy" 


Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.
User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 960 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

hello all,

it was nice to meet everybody.

i just got my camera back yesterday. if weather is nice, i plan to go out to get some shot.

does anyone know if it is legal to sail under runway 28R. a friend of mine has recently bought a sail boat.

i am thinking borrowing it for a weekend so that I can use it to sail right next to runway 28R to take couple pictures.

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

And I will someday be a high-powered airline executive, checking in with at the new Delta hub in San Francisco, flying a 767-400 piloted by Aviligator and DeltaSFO, connecting to a United flight in JFK with ILUV767 as the purser, going to France to discuss a marketing relationship with the Paris branch of Imkeww's global video advertising firm. 

Hass- I noticed you spelled "pièce de résistance" wrong. How about you hire me as a foreign languange consultant and I get a few thousand shares worth of stock options???  

I found your IPO on E-trade. Symbol IMKW, share price at $40 with an initial offering of 10 million shares set for April 2004. I intend to be a very influential member of the shareholder's board. 

Aaron G.

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3142 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

My Future Goals with United:

1) Become a flight attendant
2) Become a purser
3) Teach the training classes
4) Do fleet and Route planning as well as f/aing
5) Become a Union rep to a.f.a.
6) Retire
7) Enjoy the rest of my days

User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1671 times:


So you caught me... that's why I never took French AP (even though I was a spelling and geography bee champion, my spelling skills have failed me as of late)!

But yes, now I must audit my company. There is going to be an organizational shake-out to find the culprit of the misspelling! I will fire that infernal blue-collar and higher your high expertise. Perhaps I can use you as a butler in addition. It would be nice if you taught me the idiosyncrasies of the French language while you shined my loafers... =P My people will get in touch with yours.

Options are unquestionable. I will *give* you those shares. About the stock, you were partially right. Those 10 million set to float in 2004 are Class-A. However, there are also Class-B shares under the ticker IMK.OB, and Class-C and -D shares under the symbol KEWW. =P

All that matters to me about our future careers is that I'll be a VIP aboard every airline you guys will lead. I expect an open first class suite each time I board.  

Adieu, Adieu, and Adieu until after my Physics final 2m,

User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1660 times:


For anyone interested, my 'company' 'site' was updated recently  ... enjoy

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

Don't go too far buddy, or you'll pay in the futre when I use my executive power to create mechanical problems, seemingly coincidentally, on every flight you book.  

About the site: Even more user-friendly than before! And now with convenient information for investors!! Let me guess: Building 11, Suite 205A in your address means Dorm 11, Room 205A?? 

I'm glad to see that your stock has outperformed those of big name companies like DaimlerChrysler and Priceline.com in recent months. If you keep this stagnancy up, you could even surpass Xerox and Intel in terms of how many dollars the stockprice went up in the past year!!!   

I suggest you also spin off some dummy subsidiaries of Imkeww LLC and make them have an IPO. After that, announce the stock is splitting 4 times in order to keep up with demand. Then a few months after that announce a buyback plan, and repeat the process yearly. It's a sure fire plan.

Aaron G.

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1638 times:


Actually, you're a little bit off. It would be a 767-300 in domestic BizElite configuration. Or, if we really did end up with a hub--or more realistically, a gateway--at SFO, maybe a 777 direct to CDG. You'd have to fly with ILUV767 some other time. Enough dreaming... I've heard some people say that people in ATL are definitely noticing the New IT, but the trend seems to be that we're going to fortify back here in the Eastern US to protect our bread and butter market--Florida--as well as the rest of the Eastern US from Southwest. So I wouldn't look for any Western expansion anytime soon.

I'm in Atlanta right now, for more training. Lots of fun. This really is a great city, and I would not mind living and being based here someday. It's cold, though, definitely not the way I remember Atlanta. I've talked to so many people here about hiring trends, future fleet plans, etc., gotten so much great info!

It's starting to look more and more like we will see more 777s in our fleet before too long. Apparently people are getting the idea that the 777s would be nice on certain high yield long haul domestic runs (i.e. ATL-SFO/LAX, JFK-SFO/LAX), but obviously there are no aircraft to deploy on these routes.

777-300ERs? Who knows? I'm not going to make a prediction, I'd probably be wrong and look like an idiot, but I talked to a FO on the 767 who is moving up to the 777, he said it's pretty safe to say that Delta is looking at the -300ER. Nothing for sure, as always.

Well, that's the news from the center of the Delta Universe.

It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineTazMan029 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Dang it, I wish I could have heard about it. I'm only 17, but I would have loved to just sit and hear what you guys have to say. I just posted a message asking about the new terminal. Next time, make sure you guys announce something like that. I would have love to have gone. Next time, maybe you can e-mail me...

25 SQA340 : Man... I really, really wanted to go and meet you guys... I must of asked my dad if I could go but he goes, no. I would love to come another one. Davi
26 Post contains images ILUV767 : Thank you SQ!
27 Dasheighty : If your ever in Newark Give me a yell
28 TazMan029 : So why don't we set it up to have a little get-together again? I really want to see the new terminal, and this would be a good reason to...
29 DeltaSFO : I'm all for it... but just after the 18th of January. I'm in ATL for another week, then I go to DFW from the 2nd to the 18th. By the way, the hotel we
30 Post contains images OH-LGA : TazMan029: It's a possibility, the gathering last Saturday was really fun and all but unfortunately because SFO was in the process of moving all the a
31 Trvlr : I'd do it again, except I think I may be in LA for part of that weekend. But maybe that way I could get a good deal on AA or something. A tour of an a
32 Chiawei : I am in for another gathering. If weather is nice and is legal for us to use a boat to get close to Runway over the water, we could have a gathering o
33 ILUV767 : Lets try to set a date for Jamuary. I'm looking at a Calender and why dont we try to do this again on January 20th? We could meet at a gate, oh lets s
34 Chiawei : I am working on jan 20th. Jan 20th is a thursday. I am scheduled to fly out to TPE on the morning of 22nd on board EVA.
35 ILUV767 : My calender lies! I'm sorry. When I figure out a date, I'll post a new thread! Happy Flying
36 Post contains images Trvlr : Ooohhh, I can get a $100 airfare leaving the 17th of February and coming back the 18th on UA Shuttle. I will be in LA the weekend after so that could
37 ILUV767 : Is any one free on Feb 17th?
38 Imkeww : Aaron-- Well good guess about my dorm, but the info was all correct! I live on Clark Kerr Campus in Berkeley, which is a huge 52 acre complex of dorm
39 TazMan029 : Well, you guys are getting so far ahead. I'm really game for anytime. I prefer a weekend, maybe mid day. That would be very cool, and I really just wa
40 Superfly : Wow, the boat idea really sounds cool! The later part of January sounds good to me. Keep me informed.
41 Chiawei : i am open on 2/17. i will try to arrange if i can steal my friend's boat for a day.
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