Emirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1459 posts, RR: 9 Posted (9 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10330 times:
Just saw this on another aviation website:
Order No. 2007-A-176
May 29, 2007
IN THE MATTER OF an exemption from section 59 of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, to permit Emirates to sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale in Canada a scheduled international service between the United Arab Emirates and Canada.
File No. M4212/E217-4
Emirates (hereinafter the applicant) has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (hereinafter the Agency) for the exemption set out in the title. The application was received on May 17, 2007.
Section 59 of the Canada Transportation Act (hereinafter the CTA) prohibits an applicant from selling, causing to be sold or publicly offering for sale in Canada an air service without holding a licence in respect of that service. The applicant has applied for a scheduled international licence to operate a service between the United Arab Emirates and Canada. However, as the application is not yet complete, an exemption from the application of section 59 of the CTA is necessary in order to allow the applicant to sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale in Canada the proposed air service prior to obtaining the applied for licence.
The applicant states that it proposes to start operating its service between the United Arab Emirates and Canada on October 28, 2007 and that it is in the process of obtaining a Canadian Foreign Air Operator Certificate issued by Transport Canada which is required to complete the licence application. Consequently, the applicant submits that in order for the proposed service to be viable, it must be able to offer for sale the service at the earliest possible date.
The Agency has carefully reviewed and considered the application and is of the opinion that in order for the proposed service to be viable, the applicant must be able to offer for sale seats at the earliest possible date. Therefore, the Agency finds that compliance by the applicant with section 59 of the CTA is impractical in the present circumstances.
Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 80(1)(c) of the CTA, hereby exempts the applicant from the application of section 59 of the CTA, thereby permitting the applicant to sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale in Canada a scheduled international service between the United Arab Emirates and Canada, effective from the date of this Order, without holding the required licence, subject to the following conditions:
1. All passengers shall be notified, before reservation, that the international scheduled service is subject to government approval. All future advertising in any media, whether in writing or by telecommunication, shall also include this information.
2. The applicant shall apply its published tariffs, on file with the Agency and in effect, to sales of transportation.
3. The exemption authorized herein does not relieve the applicant from the requirement to hold a licence in respect of the service to be provided and, accordingly, no flights shall be operated until the appropriate licence authority has been granted.
4. The applicant shall arrange to provide alternative air transportation by an appropriately licensed air carrier, at no additional cost for all passengers who have made reservations with the applicant, or, if such arrangements are not possible or acceptable to the passenger, to provide a full refund of all monies paid by the passenger, should the international scheduled licence not issue.
The exemption granted herein does not exempt the applicant from the requirements of other legislative acts or regulations, including those of Transport Canada.
LouA340 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10057 times:
With EK serving Toronto its been on and off for quite a while now. Didn't they have their chance a couple of years ago but did not take it because they requested daily service or nothing, and got the later. EY the pounced on it and is serving YYZ presently.
It will be interesting to see what develops out if this.
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9695 times:
As far as I know, the present bilateral restricts one carrier from each country to fly 6 p/week. Emirates wanted daily and refused to start until they had it. EY came, and took the rights quickly after EK said no.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9672 times:
I'm still hoping that EK will come to AMS one day (with pax flights that is). I do find it odd, as AMS was always in the top 10 of biggest airports in the world (they have now dropped to 12 IIRC), but still has no service from EK, while a lot of much smaller airports do receive EK flights. As I understand it, slots are not a problem at AMS.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 15375 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9281 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 8): I'm still hoping that EK will come to AMS one day (with pax flights that is). I do find it odd, as AMS was always in the top 10 of biggest airports in the world (they have now dropped to 12 IIRC), but still has no service from EK, while a lot of much smaller airports do receive EK flights. As I understand it, slots are not a problem at AMS.
..however landing rights are, and currently, EK is using it for their cargo-hauling...
Drgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 827 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9003 times:
I believe these applications are required even if a carrier wants to operate via codeshare on somebody else's metal. Can anybody confirm? My point is that I wouldn't take this CTA notice as an indication that there is to be an imminent Emirates flight to Canada. The airline has made its interests well known but the bilateral is an impediment.
YOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 5062 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6696 times:
There have been many rumblings at different volumes of EK coming into YYZ over the last 2/3 years. Till the bilateral is revised and EK get daily slots at YYZ this is not going to happen. I will believe it only when I am on board an EK frame on the ground at YYZ ready to head to the gulf.
Naritaflyer From Japan, joined Apr 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5898 times:
Emirates can fly into YYZ tomorrow if they wished but can only do it 3 times a week. I heard Clark somewhere talking about wanting to go to YYZ or YUL daily or not at all.
Sorry but EK wants YYZ or YUL, not YYC or YVR yet.
Paneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 912 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5884 times:
Quoting BBADXB (Reply 9): @ Kappel: Thank KLM for blocking Emirates' flight path into AMS.
This is such nonsense ! If so, EK would do the same thing to KLM at Dubai. AMS receives huge EK cargo operations. We will see EK pax at AMS in the future. However, they get higher yields on many European other routes, partly because of the heavy competition of KL at AMS. As many of us know O/D at AMS is low. The airport functions as transfer point, just like DXB.
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 9890 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5868 times:
Quoting YOWza (Reply 17): Till the bilateral is revised and EK get daily slots at YYZ this is not going to happen. I will believe it only when I am on board an EK frame on the ground at YYZ ready to head to the gulf.
Oh don't you worry, it's coming. With AC receiving their brand new 777s and 787s they will likely want to fly them to the Gulf and will have to renegotiate the agreement. EK knows that, they're just getting a head start on the process.