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AC To Launch YOW-LAS Nonstop  
User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Finally!!!! At long last a nonstop to the U.S. west from YOW! Hopefully UA to SFO will follow within the next 2 years. MSP on NW was announced 2 weeks ago and now LAS, great news.

YOW is/was by far the largest Canadian city without any nonstop service to LAS.

Air Canada to Launch Non-Stop Service Between Ottawa and Las Vegas
MONTREAL, May 31 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today it is
expanding its service to Las Vegas by adding year-round, non-stop twice-weekly
flights from Ottawa starting September 6, 2007.
"Air Canada is the leading airline in the transborder market, flying more
often between Canada and the U.S. than any other carrier, said Daniel Shurz,
Vice-President Network Planning. "We are further consolidating that position
by adding a year-round, twice-weekly service between Ottawa and Las Vegas, one
of the most popular destinations in the United States for entertainment,
meetings and conventions."
Air Canada flight AC533 will depart Ottawa Thursdays and Sundays at 20:00
and arrive in Las Vegas at 22:00. The aircraft will then return, leaving Las
Vegas at 23:30 and arriving in Ottawa at 07:00. Flights will be operated using
a 120-seat Airbus A319 which features both Executive and Economy class
service.
Air Canada currently offers up to 53 weekly flights to Las Vegas from six
cities across Canada: Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa and
Montreal.
From Ottawa, Air Canada and Jazz offer over 400 flights a week to 15
destinations in North America, as well as London Heathrow.
Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz operate more non-stop flights within
Canada and to the United States than any other airline. Between Canada and the
United States, the carriers operate more than 435 non-stop flights per day on
81 routes from seven Canadian cities to 53 U.S. destinations.

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User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1768 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Good for YOW! The Canada-LAS market has seen unprecedented growth these past few years...YOW-LAS was inevitable!

User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

LAS is really developing as a Canadian hot spot. Good to see the YOW flight.

User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Wondering if LAX could be far behind??? Probably not sustainable with A319/A320 equipment, but seems that the E90 is opening up potentially profitable route possibilities.


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User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 3):
Wondering if LAX could be far behind??? Probably not sustainable with A319/A320 equipment, but seems that the E90 is opening up potentially profitable route possibilities.

Yeah on an E90 LAX would probably work, but YOW-LAX is probably slightly beyond the E90's range. YOW-SFO is the more likely possibility within the next couple of years and a UA 319 would seem to be the most likely candidate to target for such a route. It will happen eventually. UA just increased YOW-ORD to 5x daily a few weeks ago.

I see AC will be operating the E90 on YYZ-LAS for 1 of the 3 daily flights in September.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 3):
Wondering if LAX could be far behind??? Probably not sustainable with A319/A320 equipment, but seems that the E90 is opening up potentially profitable route possibilities.

LAX should absolutely be viable with an A319 given the combination of government, tourist, VFW and business traffic. Further, LAX-YOW is nearly 200nm farther than YYZ-SAN, which could present an issue with the E90



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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

Could the E90 do YOW-LAS i supposed so, and crazy question any plan @ AC to add the A318? probably not... what is the rage of a A318 could it do a YOW-LAS

Thank's


User currently offlineAltairF28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Quoting YOW" class=quote target=_blank>YOW (Thread starter):
Finally!!!! At long last a nonstop to the U.S. west from YOW! Hopefully UA to SFO will follow within the next 2 years.

Didn't AC fly YOW-SJC pre-9/11? Also, where did they fly to from ONT? The fact that they flew there was a clue on Jeopardy once (Category: Stupid Answers; Answer: Air Canada can fly you nonstop to the Canadian province of Ontario from this California city; Question: What is Ontario  silly  ).



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24796 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting AltairF28 (Reply 7):
Didn't AC fly YOW-SJC pre-9/11? Also, where did they fly to from ONT?

Those routes were to/from YYZ as far as I recall.


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

Quoting AltairF28 (Reply 7):
Didn't AC fly YOW-SJC pre-9/11?

For about 3 months. While the loads weren't high, that was probably made up for with sky-high yields by the endless spening by tech execs, which probably meant J class was full. Unfortunately the tech-wreck came shortly after this route started.

SFO on UA is a much better option than SJC, especially for all the Asian connections. I suspect that's why AC chose SJC over SFO at the time as they probably didn't want to hand off Asian pax their Star partner, who would otherwise connect at YVR on AC metal. That's why I think when YOW-SFO evenutally does happen, it'll be UA and not AC.


User currently offlineSafeFlyer From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Beat me to it! Seriously glad to see this happen only about a week after NW announced YOW-MSP. Some good news for YOW! Which reminds me, have you been to the airport lately

On another related note, I read yesterday in La Presse Affaires that Milton was preparing to step down as president and CEO of ACE, the parent company of Air Canada. Now THAT should be interesting!


User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Where else in the US does AC use A319 from YOW? Aren't all the Florida flights with E190/E175s now?

Quoting YOW" class=quote target=_blank>YOW (Reply 4):
UA just increased YOW-ORD to 5x daily a few weeks ago.

What was it before? Between AC and UA, they used to have 6x daily, though that may have been with regional jets.


User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting YOW" class=quote target=_blank>YOW (Thread starter):
Finally!!!! At long last a nonstop to the U.S. west from YOW! Hopefully UA to SFO will follow within the next 2 years. MSP on NW was announced 2 weeks ago and now LAS, great news.

Well UA is starting IAD-YOW service in September, so at least you'll have plenty more 1 stop connections.
 Wink


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4970 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

Andrew,

YOW-SFO? I would expect YOW-DEN before .... realistically speaking?


User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 13):
YOW-SFO? I would expect YOW-DEN before .... realistically speaking?

Its not ridiculous, YOW and SFO are both pretty big tech corridors within their respective countries. Not to mention the potential international connections one could get on both sides.


User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1973 times:

Quoting Flyb (Reply 2):
LAS is really developing as a Canadian hot spot

Oh how I miss the days of the Canadian DC-10 from Toronto.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 11):
Where else in the US does AC use A319 from YOW? Aren't all the Florida flights with E190/E175s now?

I believe some are the A320 series and 767.

Hunter



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1911 times:

While it is good to see AC pumping up their LAS schedules from all over Canada, what nobody mentions is the massive loss in charter airlines from Canada that use to pour into LAS. West Jet and AC just seem to be replacing them with boring A319/320 & 737NG scheduled flights.

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 13):
Andrew,

YOW-SFO? I would expect YOW-DEN before .... realistically speaking?

Hey Mark,

I don't think YOW-SFO is going to happen tomorrow, but in about 2 years I think it's realistic, especially with the increasingly important Asian market continuing to grow and high-tech continuing to rebound. YOW-DEN 1x/day would be good on an E70. I would imagine an E70 has the legs to do YOW-DEN, given UA's used them on YYZ-DEN. YOW-DEN's O&D is decent as well.

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 11):
What was it before? Between AC and UA, they used to have 6x daily, though that may have been with regional jets.

It might have briefly been 6x/day with RJs, but that's only 300 seats/day, compared with 350 seats/day on a 5x UA E70 service.

Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 12):
Well UA is starting IAD-YOW service in September, so at least you'll have plenty more 1 stop connections.

UA's departures are at 14:40 and 19:15. AC has departures are at 06:10, 10:10, 14:35 and 18:50. Given the close times, I would imagine AC will cut 1 of their 4 daily flights, just based on the fact this has happened on most other shared UA/AC routes.

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 11):
Where else in the US does AC use A319 from YOW? Aren't all the Florida flights with E190/E175s now?

This past winter Florida was on 319s/320s, but at a reduced frequency over the E75s/E90s of the previous winter.


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