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SAS To Get Rid Of The MD-87's?  
User currently offlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 254 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

Anyone else can shed a light on this?

I heard a 2nd hand rumor today, that SK will be get rid of it's MD-87 fleet in the near future.

It was told to me by a SK air hostess, that heard it from a maintenence guy.

If it is true, it means that SK will get rid of 15 out of its 49 aircraft MD fleet.
What will replace these aircraft, as i am sure they will not close a lot of routes.

Any thoughts?

Cheers
Thomas

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User currently offlineGeorgebush From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

Bet you anything that G4 snatches a few of them up!!


Al Gore invented global warming.
User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1030 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Hi CPHguard,

As far as I can see, SAS currently has 9 MD 87s. The rest of their MD fleet seems to be MD 81-82s.
Whatever the number is, the oldest are soon reaching an age of 20, so its about time to let them move on.
With the more fuel efficient B737s n A320 series in their fleet, I guess with todays fuel price, SAS are interested to keep switching into new planes.
With the new CEO, who seems to be more enthusiastic than the previous one, I doubt that they are planning to close routes and shrink their fleet size.
With some A319 and B737 still to be delivered, I guess that they will let some MDs be replaced by those new planes.

Maybe time for SAS to add more narrowbody orders soon???

BTW, Hope that SAS soon will overcome the damage that they got from the last strike.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8556 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 1):
Bet you anything that G4 snatches a few of them up!!

Very true. They do need more a/c.

Hunter


Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineBritMidDC9 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Hasn't JK been taking some ex SAS MD-87's? Some, if not all are still in full SK livery but have be re-registered in Spain.

Does anyone know if these are leased from SK or have been bought?

Maybe JK will take some more?

User currently offlineNewSwissair From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 282 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Isn't Spanair 100% owned by SAS? I read that sometime ago, but can't remember where.
The plan was that Spanair gets all SAS MD-87 in the future. The other will be kept for some more years and maybe fitted with Stage IV Hushkits.

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting NewSwissair (Reply 6):

Spanair is a wholly owned subsidiary of the SAS group, and yes many of the aircraft are either ex SAS or used from the parent company during peak/off peak seasons.

User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

SAS, my favorite maintenance money-saving short haul fleet: A320 series, 737, MD-80. Maybe they should get some E-Jets to diverify just a liitle more.

User currently offlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Quoting FD728 (Reply 8):
SAS, my favorite maintenance money-saving short haul fleet: A320 series, 737, MD-80. Maybe they should get some E-Jets to diverify just a liitle more.

You forgot to mention the Dash8

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3728 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

Quoting CPHGuard (Thread starter):
If it is true, it means that SK will get rid of 15 out of its 49 aircraft MD fleet.
What will replace these aircraft, as i am sure they will not close a lot of routes.

It would seem that upcoming A319 deliveries would be the most logical choice to replace the MD-87s apparently rumored to be leaving the SAS fleet soon. It seems I vaguely recall reading somehwere that SAS plans to take no further 737 deliveries after two -700s (with winglets) that are/were scheduled to arrive at SAS Braathens/SAS Norway in the near future, which leaves the A319s SAS has on order as the only foreseeable replacement for their MD-87s. By the way, does someone know the number of A319s SAS has on order?

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6211 posts, RR: 79
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 9):
By the way, does someone know the number of A319s SAS has on order?

Only two, for delivery in August and November.


PH


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCPHGuard From Denmark, joined Jun 2006, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Only two, for delivery in August and November.

This brings us back to my original post.

It will leave SAS short of 7-10 planes. Any suggestions what they will do?
Maybe pick up a couple of A319's on the 2nd hand market?

User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

I think SK's diverse array of aircraft types seriously needs to be reduced! Industrial relations arent exactly great at the moment either, and costs at SK are supposed to be high. Also add in the added threat of continued expansion by FR and other european LCC's, EK and the continued focus of US carries to expand to every city in Europe! A single A319/320/321 and 330/340 fleet would be ideal!

User currently offlineBasefly From Denmark, joined Apr 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

I have no doubt that SK will go for Airbus commonality in the future.

The CEO of SK has publicly said that he needs just a little more money in the tank, then he will be able to get favorable loans to buy ALOT of new planes, also long hauls.....  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineCEO@AFG From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 238 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2104 times:

At one point the SK fleet included the F28 and DC-9 in addition to A321s, MD-80s and 737NGs, so things have improved.

The reason the MD-87 fleet is scheduled to leave, is the fact it's a small part of the fleet, basically the odd one out.

The rest of the MD-80s are scheduled to stay with SAS for at least another 10 years.


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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3237 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Do SAS still have their MD 90's What will happen to those ? I beleve SAS was one of the very few airlines that ordered that type.

User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 12):
I A single A319/320/321 and 330/340 fleet would be ideal!

Sounds a bit like Finnair: now 29 narrow body Airbusses and 13 Embraers (170/190), and 10 A330/340 by 2010.

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 15):
Do SAS still have their MD 90's What will happen to those ? I beleve SAS was one of the very few airlines that ordered that type.

Bue1 got 3? from mother SAS.

User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

....and on a side note, I wish SAS had taken those 717s. They would have been ideal alongside 737-700/800s OR A320s.

Quoting CEO@AFG (Reply 14):
The rest of the MD-80s are scheduled to stay with SAS for at least another 10 years.

That is if SAS is still flying independently in ten years, which I doubt.

User currently offlineLHSTR From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting FD728 (Reply 17):
That is if SAS is still flying independently in ten years, which I doubt.

I have a hard time seeing anybody buy SAS.
Number one reason for that seems the mess with SK unions. If you take over SAS some things have to change, and I dont see some 30 unions being in favor of that...

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