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NZ Double Daily To HKG Twice Per Week  
User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

Just looking at the schedules in Amadeus and it seems that from 30 Nov, Air NZ will be operating a second HKG flight on Fri and Sun using B777 equipment. Is there really that much demand considering CX operated twice daily A343s? I would have thought it would have made more sense to operate an additional two services to PVG to make it daily.

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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8488 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3052 times:
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these additional services were announced a few weeks ago , and , IIRC are just seasonal - but in any case dont forget that the existing daily flight is actually AKL-HKG-LHR and I would imagine that the Fri departure is pretty full of leisure pax and business pax going right through to the UK ( fly out at the end of your working week and get into the UK with the weekend to recover if you need your wits about you for an early meeting on Monday ) - this may mean that seats for the AKL-HKG sector are harder to get on Friday justifying an O&D flight


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

The title: Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense

User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
The title: Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense

Yes it does!

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User currently offlineMadhatter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
The title: Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense

Erm yeah it does. Two times per week the service runs double daily? Surely not that hard to understand?!


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Quoting Madhatter (Reply 4):
Two times per week the service runs double daily? Surely not that hard to understand?!

Would be better to say 9 weekly


User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 5):
Quoting Madhatter (Reply 4):
Two times per week the service runs double daily? Surely not that hard to understand?!

Would be better to say 9 weekly

Not this side of the pond


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

Quoting Madhatter (Reply 4):
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
The title: Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense

Erm yeah it does. Two times per week the service runs double daily? Surely not that hard to understand?!

The usual definition of "daily" is "every day of the week" so saying "double daily twice a week" is not logical.


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
The usual definition of "daily" is "every day of the week" so saying "double daily twice a week" is not logical.

Thank you


User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Quoting Madhatter (Reply 4):
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
The title: Double Daily Twice Per Week makes no sense

Erm yeah it does. Two times per week the service runs double daily? Surely not that hard to understand?!

The usual definition of "daily" is "every day of the week" so saying "double daily twice a week" is not logical.

Think you guys need to do a bit more research on your vocabulary...check out dictionary.com
Daily can mean 'every day of the week', however it can also mean 'per day'. E.g. a daily newspaper (and also those so called) is often not issued on Saturdays/Sundays.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Haha, you might just want to simplify it next time for those who don't understand..


During this time, AKL-HKG is very busy. Usually both CX flights are full and the continuation of the NZ service to LHR means that quite a few seats are already not available to those just going to HKG. I reckon it is justified, but only for the Southern summer.



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5190 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

CX don't appear to be adding the second flight until December this year, usually goes for the whole summer schedule starting late October.

In Feb 2008 NZ will further increase HKG flights as they do every year to cater for the Chinese New Year traffic.

NZ seem to be doing quite nicely on the North Asia routes with PVG going 5x weekly aswell plus the Japan routes, not sure how much longer KIX will last but NRT is doing ok.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 10):
and the continuation of the NZ service to LHR means that quite a few seats are already not available to those just going to HKG. I reckon it is justified, but only for the Southern summer.

Exactly and this has also helped NZ to be able to operate AKL-HKG daily year round with the HKG-LHR sector. I think in future they will be able to justify the extra capacity year round.


User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 934 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

I suppose the title could have been "Air New Zealand to fly two flights a week in addition to the one flight per day that they fly each day of the week" but that would have been too wordy.

In either case, glad to see that loads (and revenues) are good enough to add service. Wish we'd see them in BKK but I know that won't be happening anytime soon.



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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

This has been discussed before in on of the NZ aviation threads.

User currently offlineLovinitflyboy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting Christao17 (Reply 12):
I suppose the title could have been "Air New Zealand to fly two flights a week in addition to the one flight per day that they fly each day of the week" but that would have been too wordy.

Or waht about "NZ add 2 extra weekly AKL - HKG flights" becasuse thats all it is, 2 extra flights!


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
The usual definition of "daily" is "every day of the week" so saying "double daily twice a week" is not logical.

the service is "daily" but "twice a week" it is "doubled" to twice a day...
"daily plus two weekly flights" might make more sense if you find the topic confusing...



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2228 times:

I find it amazing how this thread is more about vocabulary/grammar than it is about the actual subject  Wink

User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Nice new airport at HKG. But not as cool as Kaitak. Further to my suggestions re Wellington.
An artists impression of an extension to the north by 3-400m with a huge curved sandy beach and lush Nikau forest entrance.... from the end of the runway extension around to Cobham drive (Evans Bay Marina end).
Combined with news of 20,000 jobs for the city. Govt / Regional Council would pay for it imo.
Enormous value to the economy. They would probably have to restructure the Airport company into an operating and asset company. Could be done as bridge style extension. 345/346 makes lots of sense for NZ imo.
An elevated viewing tower on Mt Victoria could just be a prefabricated steel structure bolted together with the lower parts assembled with a mobile crane, top parts with a helicopter (glassed in platform at height of existing tower).
Above the water tank?...... (further along the ridge line). Bus parking and souvenir shop built into the hill.
Do it in conjunction with BCL(owns the tower), and Tourism Wellington and Infratil.
All it would need would be a full page ad in some of the major european architecture magazines like Abitare etc.....with a link to Website detailing competition details. Architects dream for projects like that (tecnically simple but huge visibilty).
And you need your own Wellington-Picton ferry from inner harbour.


User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Quoting RichardJF (Reply 17):
Nice new airport at HKG. But not as cool as Kaitak. Further to my suggestions re Wellington.
An artists impression of an extension to the north by 3-400m with a huge curved sandy beach and lush Nikau forest entrance.... from the end of the runway extension around to Cobham drive (Evans Bay Marina end).
Combined with news of 20,000 jobs for the city. Govt / Regional Council would pay for it imo.
Enormous value to the economy. They would probably have to restructure the Airport company into an operating and asset company. Could be done as bridge style extension. 345/346 makes lots of sense for NZ imo.
An elevated viewing tower on Mt Victoria could just be a prefabricated steel structure bolted together with the lower parts assembled with a mobile crane, top parts with a helicopter (glassed in platform at height of existing tower).
Above the water tank?...... (further along the ridge line). Bus parking and souvenir shop built into the hill.
Do it in conjunction with BCL(owns the tower), and Tourism Wellington and Infratil.
All it would need would be a full page ad in some of the major european architecture magazines like Abitare etc.....with a link to Website detailing competition details. Architects dream for projects like that (tecnically simple but huge visibilty).
And you need your own Wellington-Picton ferry from inner harbour.

And then the developers find out that no one wants to fly larger jets there anyway...

Quoting RichardJF (Reply 17):
345/346 makes lots of sense for NZ imo.

If NZ has too much money and no where to spend, then yes. The A340 line desperately need money to stay open for longer...because very few airlines are buying them...we all know why.


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