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User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Flying SEA-SJU-SEA on DL 1st week of July.

The SEA-ATL-SEA portions look good, but the ATL-SJU-ATL flights are pretty full.

Considering I am connecting in ATL to SEA on the way home......

#1 Will DL fill F class before bumping?

#2 If I vounlteer to get bumped, and I am on the last SJU-ATL flight that night, what happens?

#3 What type on compensation is DL giving these days?

Thanks, Alex


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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting AlexInWa (Thread starter):
#2 If I vounlteer to get bumped, and I am on the last SJU-ATL flight that night, what happens?

I don't know what will exactly happen, but I do know they would be making announcements asking for volunteers due to a possible oversell. In that announcement they should tell you exactly what compensation you'd be given and when the next flight to your destination would be. If you identified yourself as a volunteer to a gate agent - at that point you should ask them about your connection to SEA and how you will get there if you do not take this flight.Showing interest in volunteering doesn't actually mean you are volunteering so you will be able to get all of your questions answered before making that decision.



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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1535 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Depending of stage length, it's usually 200 or 400 Delta Dollars. As for overbookings, they'll just re-book you on the next flight. Should be no big deal. If it works out, you can get a confirmed seat on the next flight and get money towards your next trip in the process, although you'll have to spend a few extra hours in SJU. As for filling up F, on international routes DL doesn't allow upgrades, at least that's what I was told, so I don't know how that gets handled.

User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

So if the next flight is the next morning, am I on my own for a hotel stay or does DL take care of that as well?

Thanks for the help so far!!!



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User currently offlineClearedDirect From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 2):
As for filling up F, on international routes DL doesn't allow upgrades

I have been upgraded on a Delta international flight. It was Dec. '06, so I do not know if the rules have changed in the last 6 months.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6778 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 2):
As for filling up F, on international routes DL doesn't allow upgrades, at least that's what I was told, so I don't know how that gets handled.

(1) SJU-ATL isn't international.
(2) Delta does offer complimentary upgrades for Medallions on flights to & from the Caribbean (and BDA), Mexico, Central & non-deep South America (i.e. not EZE, GRU, GIG, SCL), and Canada. Chances are that there will be enough Medallions on the flight that F will fill up with upgrades, if there are any seats available.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1535 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 5):
SJU-ATL isn't international.

Yikes...thanks for the help  footinmouth  As for number two, one of my coworkers told me that DL doesn't offer free upgrades on international flights, but didn't mention anything about Caribbean routes. Thanks for clearing that up for me, I didn't mean to spread false info. Thanks for setting me straight, though.  Wink


User currently offlineDL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 2):
on international routes DL doesn't allow upgrades



Quoting ClearedDirect (Reply 4):

I have been upgraded on a Delta international flight

To clarify: DL does not give free upgrades to Medallions for international flights, so unlike on domestic flights where F is nearly always filled by status upgrades, it's very possible to have a full or oversold Y cabin with empty seats in F. Of course operational upgrades are always a possibility if Y checks in more than 100% and there are open seats in F. These would be given out based on elite status and price/fare class of ticket. Only after both cabins are filled and if there are still more passengers than seats would they start asking for volunteers.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
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Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 7):
To clarify: DL does not give free upgrades to Medallions for international flights, so unlike on domestic flights where F is nearly always filled by status upgrades, it's very possible to have a full or oversold Y cabin with empty seats in F. Of course operational upgrades are always a possibility if Y checks in more than 100% and there are open seats in F. These would be given out based on elite status and price/fare class of ticket. Only after both cabins are filled and if there are still more passengers than seats would they start asking for volunteers.

Well, this statement is MOSTLY wrong... medallions get free unlimited upgrades on ANY fare to all international destinations not served by Business Elite service... the free upgrades include everything in South America except for SCL, GRU, GIG and EZE. It includes all of Central America, the Caribbean, Mexico and Canada as well as BDA.


User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

Area of Travel / Fares Application


Complimentary Medallion Upgrades are valid for travel:
Within or between the Continental United States, Alaska, Bermuda, Canada, Caribbean, and Mexico (excludes Hawaii)

Between the U.S. and Central America:
BZE, GUA, SJO, PTY, LIR, SAL, SAP, RTB, MGA

Between the U.S. and South America:
CCS, LIM, BOG, GYE, and UIO


Note: Complimentary upgrades will not be offered on flights to/from South American cities that are serviced with Delta’s BusinessElite™ product such as Buenos Aires, Argentina; Santiago, Chile; Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Complimentary Medallion Upgrades are permitted on the Domestic portion of an International DL or DL-OA ticket if booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T.


The upgrade will be automatically requested on flights booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U and T in PNR's with all Medallions. If the fare basis is not eligible, add opt out.


Members on DL due to OAL FIM may use the Complimentary Medallion Upgrade according to Rule 120 if the fare on the ticket equals the DL upgradeable fare.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Quoting AlexInWa (Thread starter):
#1 Will DL fill F class before bumping?

Yes, DL will fill F up first before bumping. Medallions on revenue tickets get first cracks (as per the published Medallion upgrade rules). From there, it's my understanding in talking to some DL agents that the next in line would be either SkyTeam elites on revenue tickets or Medallions on award tickets, and then they'll bump up any non-status passenger after that. The only way they bump is if every single seat on the plane is occupied.

Quoting AlexInWa (Thread starter):

#2 If I vounlteer to get bumped, and I am on the last SJU-ATL flight that night, what happens?

While I haven't been bumped overnight for about a year now, when I last was a year ago in ATL, DL put us up in a hotel overnight - they gave us a voucher, when I checked in there, I just gave them the voucher and got my key.

Quoting AlexInWa (Thread starter):
#3 What type on compensation is DL giving these days?

My bump last month (on a GSO-CVG flight) resulted in me getting a $200 voucher, confirmed F on GSO-ATL, and confirmed Y (full Y ticket) on ATL-LAS (F was sold out, but with the full-Y ticket, it bumped me up to number one on the upgrade list and I cleared the upgrade at the gate). My impressions are that if it's an overnight bump it's $400; if it's on a 50-seat RJ or less, you can only get $200 (as per DL's Contract of Carriage, page 52). I don't know if after a certain point (say being delayed over 4 hours) the amount goes up to $400.


User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Thanks for all the help everyone......

Does anyone have inside info on ATL-SJU loads 29 June, and SJU-ATL 7 July?



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