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EA: ATL-LAX In The Late 80's  
User currently onlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1103 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

When I was a kid, my parents and I flew EA from ATL-LAX in F, as my Dad was getting rid of his EA FF points as his company was switching solely to DL. What sort of equipment did they typically use on this route in 1988 (or 89?) I'm trying to tally up all the miles I've flown and the equipment I've flown on.

Thanks!


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

I would guess mainly L1011s or 757s. Maybe an A300.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Like Quickmover said, probably a A300, 757, L-1011 or perhaps one of the 3 DC-10-30s they had at the time. EA also had 727-200s & DC-9-30s & -50s too.
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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2975 times:

My 12/15/87 timetable shows a combination of 757 and "widebody", which on the flights I took, were A300s. There might have been L-1011's in the schedule as well, but I never got one.


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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2930 times:

December '89:

LAX-ATL

EA 80 7:40am 2:47pm L10 Daily
EA 82 9:20am 4:41pm L10 Daily
EA 84 1:15pm 8:29pm 757 Daily

ATL-LAX

EA 81 9:26am 9:26am 757 Daily
EA 85 4:25pm 4:25pm L10 Daily
EA 87 8:05pm 8:05pm L10 Daily



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2912 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 4):
December '89:

LAX-ATL

EA 80 7:40am 2:47pm L10 Daily
EA 82 9:20am 4:41pm L10 Daily
EA 84 1:15pm 8:29pm 757 Daily

ATL-LAX

EA 81 9:26am 9:26am 757 Daily
EA 85 4:25pm 4:25pm L10 Daily
EA 87 8:05pm 8:05pm L10 Daily



Delta Air Lines - We

Kind of slim frequency wise. Does anyone know how big Delta was in this market in 1989?


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 5):
Kind of slim frequency wise. Does anyone know how big Delta was in this market in 1989?

See below:

Delta Air Lines

LAX-ATL

DL 182 12:30am 7:20am 757 Daily
DL 150 7:15am 2:17pm 763 Daily
DL 134 8:35am 3:42pm L10 Daily
DL 146 12:30pm 7:29pm 763 Daily
DL 130 3:05pm 10:00pm 763 Daily
DL 66 11:00pm 5:48am L10 Daily

ATL-LAX

DL 79 8:22am 8:22am L10 Daily
DL 103 12:02pm 12:02pm 763 Daily
DL 157 3:23pm 3:23pm L10 Daily
DL 867 6:50pm 6:50pm 767 Daily
DL 187 6:59pm 6:59pm 763 Daily
DL 129 8:35pm 8:35pm 757 Daily
DL 143 10:35pm 10:35pm 767 Daily



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2893 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 5):
Kind of slim frequency wise.

Remember that that timetable was about 13 months prior to EA's shutdown. Two years earlier they were running:

ATL 4x
MCI 3x
MIA 3x
PHL 1x



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Remember that that timetable was about 13 months prior to EA's shutdown.

Only wrote ATL-LAX-ATL flights...



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2):
or perhaps one of the 3 DC-10-30s they had at the time.

The DC-10s were based out of MIA and mainly flew MIA-LGW, GIG-MIA-LAX.


User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

In the late 80s, primarily A300s with maybe one 757 per day. L1011s were not used much on that route until after the '89 strike. I worked F on ATL-LAX many, many times. It was a full cart service with chateaubriand or rack of lamb, caesar salad, ice cream sundaes, fruit & cheese board, etc. Those were the days and I miss them.

User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

I use to fly LAX - MIA often back then on EA and DL. I got bumped one time and got to fly up front and a L1011.

UAL747-600


User currently offlineCF6PPE From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2531 times:

EAL won rights to fly ATL-LAX in the early '70's and initiated service on the route with DC8-61 equipment. The trip was a non-rev's dream as the return trip from LAX continued from ATL to PBI and then the aircraft ferried on to MIA, usually with the non-rev's intact. The loads on this trip were pretty light for a 190+ seat aircraft even including all of the non-revs.

So the DC8-61's were replaced with B727-25QC equipment. This B727 equipment was seasonally challenged west bound and made tech stops (at I believe PHX) and/or slowed drastically to max range speeds (approx. M.72), both of which made for late arrivals. East bound trips typically were not a problem.

I don't remember when the next equipment change happened, but I have flown on L1011 and A300B4 equipment both directions ATL-LAX in the middle and late '80's. A300B4's came into the EA fleet in late 1977; my recollection is that the A300B4 was introduced on routes to both SFO and LAX from ATL within its first year in the (EA) fleet.

In Sept. '87, I was able return LAX-MIA on one of the EAL DC10-30 trips in F. That trip was my first encounter with so-called lay flat seats.

I probably missed the B757's use on the ATL-LAX.

I don't remember the B727-225's being used on the ATL-LAX trips; maybe the -225A were, but I doubt.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting CF6PPE (Reply 12):
EAL won rights to fly ATL-LAX in the early '70's

Late 60s, wasn't it?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2434 times:
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The DC10's of Eastern never made it through ATL. I have a friend who was a FA for EA up until the day they stopped flying and she was based out of ATL and was never trained on the DC10.


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User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

The DC-10s DID pass through ATL on a few occasions as equipment substitutions, probably with MIA cabin crews.

User currently offlineB777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Quoting Gr8SlvrFlt (Reply 10):
It was a full cart service with chateaubriand or rack of lamb, caesar salad, ice cream sundaes, fruit & cheese board, etc. Those were the days and I miss them

I remember many times flying the A300B4 into SEA and staying on for the second leg to PDX. On the ATL-SEA portion, I can vividly remember getting lobster tail and that was in Y. Good Lord were those the days!


User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2036 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 13):
Late 60s, wasn't it?

Yep - they got the authority in 1969, along with ATL-DAL nonstop rights and a Chicago-Jamaica route. Eastern wanted to get out all the way out to LAX in 1961 during the original Southern Transcontinental Route Case, but the choice routes (from Florida and Atlanta to California) went to Delta and National instead. Eastern (which had a long history of getting no love from the CAB during route awards) was only granted a lame tag service from MSY to DAL.

When the route case was reopened in 1969, Eastern finally got the nonstop, but by then Delta was pretty well established on the ATL-California routes. Eastern's ATL-LAX award was pretty much the only one that made any sense - the whole case was full of oddball awards, like National's ATL-SFO route, Northeast's MIA-LAX and Continental's DAL-SEA and DAL-LAX awards.


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