United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1648 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
Remember a few years back when AS started SNA-YVR flights but forgot to get custom cleareance? Is this route still possible for AS? I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem since YVR has border preclearance for flights to the US.
ElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1515 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1201 times:
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8774 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1179 times:
YVR had a FIS back then as well. The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city. Since at the time (not sure about now), SNA did not have Customs, they could not handle an international arrival, even if pre-cleared.
McMax From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): YVR had a FIS back then as well. The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city. Since at the time (not sure about now), SNA did not have Customs, they could not handle an international arrival, even if pre-cleared.
Yup, that's correct. Because SNA currently does not have any customs facilities, international flights are not permitted. However, SNA is in the midst of building a new Terminal C, which is supposed to have customs facilities for international service. It would be great if AS were to reinstate the YVR non-stop--it would save the stop in Seattle and the frantic trek on the train system to get to the Horizon gates.
Pacifica From Canada, joined May 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): The problem is on the US end; the US city must also have Customs as a fail-safe if they could not clear them up at the gateway city.
One thing though is that if the flight is pre-cleared in Canada, the US airport only needs to be a landing rights airport, rather than an airport of entry. However, I am not too sure of the differences between these two...maybe someone else with more knowledge can elaborate?
Tennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 918 times:
SNA-YVR (like SAN-YVR) is a route for which a B737 might be a touch too big.....more of an RJ route for which AC is ideally suited to pickup connecting traffic through Vancouver. I bet AC is eyeing it once customs get set up there. But you never know, maybe AS (Horizon?) will give it another go, but like SAN-YVRthey would be relying strictly on O&D traffic which is a disadvantage. As an aside, a friend of mine recently flew YVR-SAN on the Jazz CRJ705 and said it was full both ways.
ACJ is starting YVR-SMF this summer, so I guess SMF has full customs there?? Doesn't AeroMexico/Mexicana fly in there too??