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Nomor Dua! Indonesia Aviation Thread Part 2  
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8933 times:

OK guys,
It's time for Part 2 of this...
Continuing from Indonesia Aviation Thread 1 (by Mandala499 Mar 30 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Here are the latests... or so it seems...

1. GA rumoured to have increased pilots salaries to prevent pilots from leaving.
2. Lion's 2nd 739ER has arrived.
3. Indonesia Air Asia had a hard landing in Medan this weekend.
4. Sriwijaya's flight to Malang yesterday had to RTB due to oil problems leading to shutting down an engine.
5. Merpati's 1st MA60 could arrive in July
6. Trigana's Twotter crashed in Mulia last week.
7. Sriwijaya plans to add 1 732 and 1 733 this month.
8. Parliament approves of 15m USD budget for Presidential aircraft (which would be a relief to Garuda being thrown into havoc whenever the President wants to do a trip).

Mandala499


When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8913 times:

How is it that GARUDA is able to charter up to 20 widebody aircraft for the HAJJ periods every year,
yet they dont have the money to pay for the leases of the A330's?? If they have such a serious short-
fall of capacity with the A330s leaving, why not keep the HAJJ aircraft around for longer periods?



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8910 times:

The hajj charters are are funded by the actual fee GA charges the government for putting up the hajj ops... the proceeds from that impossible to lease the hajj aircraft for longer. The contract itself is pretty stringent... the demand for ontime performance during hajj is short of crazy... hence GA has to fork out hefty hajj leases and charge the govt... From what I know, they tried to do this last year but was unable to do so.

The hajj ops are crewed in the cabin by contract F/As who are only hired for the hajj periods. The flight ops support is done by mainly 3rd party providers selected by the leased carrier, and GA just puts up the other ground support and pays the bills.

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8859 times:

Lion Air plans all business class flights

Lion Air plans to operate all business class configured B739ER aircraft on the CGK SUB and CGK SIN routes by the end of the year. To that extent, 6 B739ER aircraft will be configured in a 90C/0Y configuration as opposed to the current 0C/213Y in the aircraft that have so far been delivered. Read about it here, in Bahasa Indonesia.

Only in their wildest dreams, if you ask me...


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8789 times:

Is there enough demand to fulfill 6 aircraft in all business class?? That would sound like LION is planning
a shuttle ala Eastern, Delta where they run flights every hour or so between the points.
Can you they charge enough of a premium to cover the costs with such a reduced capacity and what is
obviously a very expensive aircraft??



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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8782 times:

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 4):
Is there enough demand to fulfill 6 aircraft in all business class??

There is not! Garuda is doing reasonable well on CGK SUB with an hourly shuttle and just 16 business class seats per flight. I wonder how Lion would ever fill 90 of those seats. It seems as if the Lion spin doctors are at it again.

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 4):
That would sound like LION is planning
a shuttle ala Eastern, Delta where they run flights every hour or so between the points.

An hourly shuttle to SUB requires 4 aircraft and the 2 other aircraft would land the airline with 6 daily roundtrips to SIN, which is quite a bit over the top given the difficulties they are having in filling theirs current one daily flight there!

The whole idea is a joke by and for very simple minds...


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8779 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
The whole idea is a joke by and for very simple minds...

There in itself sums up the Indonesian aviation situation!



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8734 times:

Update:
Lorena has claimed to have the AOC in the bag, and 3 aircraft ready.
The head of DGAC claimed otherwise and said the aircraft so far claimed to be allocated are in overhaul.

Lorena needs to have the aircraft here by the end of the month otherwise the govt. revokes the AOC in process...

-------
JT CGK-SUB...
8 Flts a day (incl Wings)...
Looking for Friday afternoon, which is normally full, only the 17:00 flight is full (or more likely not operating).... The rest are still no where near full Y class. Same goes for the way back...

Same goes for tomorrow...though the loads coming back look better...

And for today...

Still no full Y class fare shows... only 1 of the remaining flight as we speak is at 1 class below Y.

Going back from SUB is even more of a dismal load...

JT CGK-SIN... from single daily to??? WHAT? They must kidding !

They're not filling the belly of the 739 with all sorts either as Boeing have said "no funny cargoes" as a condition...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1220 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8718 times:

I think JT is funnier than Tukul Arwana (an Indonesian comedian). Let's list JT's jokes:
1. The plan to use 744s
2. The plan to fly CGK-AMS route
3. The plan to exclusively use HLP
4. ... (please fill in)


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8701 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8):
1. The plan to use 744s

.. and A330s, B777s and so on.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8):
2. The plan to fly CGK-AMS route

... and CGK NRT, CGK India, CGK Australia and so on.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8):
3. The plan to exclusively use HLP

... not to forget the dedicated Lion terminal at CGK.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8):
4. ... (please fill in)

Well, I think that the 60 B739ERs are the biggest joke of them all. Let's see how many they absorb.


User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8676 times:

Presumably these planeloads of fictional C class pax won't mind the genuine third world airport experience of CGK Term 1?

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8670 times:

Quoting GFFgold (Reply 10):
Presumably these planeloads of fictional C class pax won't mind the genuine third world airport experience of CGK Term 1?

Since these passengers are non-existing anyway, I don't think they would mind using the imaginary premium check in areas and executive lounges of terminal one before boarding their delusional full business class flights onboard Lion's premium B739ERs. Heck, who knows, Lion may even decide on a fictional premium terminal à la QR and LH to cater for all these premium guests, with illusory grand buffets, including streaky bacon à discretion and free flow of imported beers and wines.


User currently offlineN757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8649 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
Lion Air plans all business class flights

I think I can count on one hand how many business class seats I have seen filled on the CGK/PLM flights. Granted more business probably flies between CGK/SUB than CGK/PLM.

Quoting GFFgold (Reply 10):
Presumably these planeloads of fictional C class pax won't mind the genuine third world airport experience of CGK Term 1?

Maybe Lion is expecting foreign nationals to fly business rather than economy while in Indonesia. Actually, I don't really mind Terminal 1. It really is not all that different from Terminal 2 except for the lack of air conditioning and the masses of people standing around.

Now my gripe is the lack of any kind of real signage for the shuttle between the terminals and the fact it stops operating at 7PM. I don't really want to load my suitcases into a public car to get to terminal 2.

I also wish the airlines and airport authority would take a little time and effort to clean up CGK and make it a little brighter at night. It is so depressing at night. It reminds me of how ATL was starting to look before the city starting improving the signage, replacing carpet, and painting to give the airport a lighter feel.

I do like architecture at CGK, it does have an Indonesia feel to it. I know where I am at CGK.

N757KW



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User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8603 times:

In my experience foreign nationals don't make up many of the C class pax on domestic flights. The odd time I travel up front I am invariably surrounded by civil servants and managers of state enterprises, plus people like myself flying on FF award tickets. I can remember seeing a group of 'bule' (caucasians) up front on a flight to Medan last year, but the fact that this sticks in my mind shows how unusual it was.

User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8589 times:

Maybe by putting them in all C config it will be easier to sell/ lease on to other airlines... Fewer seats to throw away when the lessee puts in their own interior....

User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8578 times:

More general silliness reported in today's Jakarta Post. Our beloved Vice Pres has asked GA to begin direct services between DPS and Kunming, China. I quote:

"As Yunan and Bali are sister provinces [eh??] I would ask Garuda to open a direct flight between Kunming and Bali, so that tourism as well as trade links between the two will improve further".

I should hope that brilliant idea dies a swift natural death.


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8556 times:

Not too long ago, on the occasion of a visit of the South African foreign minister to Indonesia, followed up by a reciprocal visit of Kalla to Cape Town, the sharpest pencil in the the pack that is called the Indonesian Cabinet, demanded that Garuda start DAILY operations between Jakarta/Denpasar and Johannesburg/Cape Town. I guess he was referring to the approximately 6 O&D passengers which ply that route every day. The Vice President has over and over shown himself to be an inexhaustible source of bright ideas. Indonesia better brace itself for the day this guy becomes President.

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8550 times:

GARUDA has had links to South Africa before. Back in 92-94, they leased in a B747 Combi from
SAA. The inflight entertainment system even said "Welcome onboard South African Airways" when it
was started up. Of course that was another venture with well lined pockets. The figures I heard were that
payments were 10Million dollars a above what the going rate was, so that money of course went into
the pockets of the people who needed it the least. That was actually a smart venture cargo wise, we
made a ton of money on that run, but with the extra "payments" it was doomed.



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8463 times:

Update:
1. GA plans Jakarta-Malang
2. CGK a.net meet

OK guys...
How about an a.net meet in CGK next week? It was initially planned for 14th, but by the looks of it, it'll be 15th/16th...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8437 times:

Quoting GFFgold (Reply 15):
Our beloved Vice Pres has asked GA to begin direct services between DPS and Kunming, China. I quote:

"As Yunan and Bali are sister provinces [eh??] I would ask Garuda to open a direct flight between Kunming and Bali, so that tourism as well as trade links between the two will improve further".

Lovely, a flight between 2 very low-yielding destinations? Maybe he needs a lesson in yield management or make him responsible for GA's profitability then he might be more careful making statements like these...

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 16):
demanded that Garuda start DAILY operations between Jakarta/Denpasar and Johannesburg/Cape Town.

Jakarta - Johannesburg / Capetown might not be such a bad idea. But leave that to SA, GA needs to sort herself out first.



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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8419 times:

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 18):
1. GA plans Jakarta-Malang

I haven't heard anything about that. Palangkaraya is confirmed for an August 17 start, but nothing else, so far.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 19):
Jakarta - Johannesburg / Capetown might not be such a bad idea.

There is very little O&D traffic between the two countries at large, and Garuda has very little in terms of international traffic to feed such an operation. Furthermore, the airline would have to compete with the likes of SQ, MH, TG, CX, SA, EK, QR and EY, all of whom offer very competitive fares to South Africa in the Indonesian market. Heck, even KL and LH offer very competitive fares to South Africa, which allow for a Europe stopover. A Garuda venture into JNB/CPT would most certainly end in a financial bloodbath.


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8415 times:

Who is Megantara Air and where do they operate their B727F to?
Are they a big player in the cargo markets, or do they operate for the mines on Irian?



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8400 times:

Updates:
- Batavia's fleet expands again with 2 more A320s planned before the end of the year, to make its airbus fleet to 6 aircraft.
- Lorena Air (see reply #7 above) plans are getting stranger by the day. A leasing / finance package was prepared by a company assisting Lorena, and then, the deal was cut and bypassed by Lorena. It is so far unclear on the status of the aircraft they claim to have ready. This is yet another "backstab" occurence with Lorena Air... not the first... they've had staff being dismissed whenever a group gets close to the boss... the one loosing it's jockeyed position gets thrown out regardless of merit I am told.

Re:
1. GA to MLG:
It was mentioned at: Detik Surabaya

I am not surprised if nothing about this is known in GA since only Malang Airport is talking about it!

2. Megantara Air
I hear it's CGK-SIN and that's about it. Not much is known publicly. Their 727F is ex Transmile I am told, so this could just be Transmile's Indonesian front, since their last local AOC holder, Bayu Air, has had its AOC frozen.

Mandala499



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User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8370 times:

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 18):
by the looks of it, it'll be 15th/16th...

If you make it on the 16th you may just be in time to see me disappearing off to MAN via AUH on EY on that day.


User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 888 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8290 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
Garuda is doing reasonable well on CGK SUB with an hourly shuttle and just 16 business class seats per flight. I wonder how Lion would ever fill 90 of those seats. It seems as if the Lion spin doctors are at it again.

Actually why don't JT just used a mixed cabin config like GA? Won't it be much easier?


Actually I flew to SRG on GA on Sat morning on GA238, PK-GGC, HB-IWC is right about the B735 having a nicer inteior than others in the fleet, even the audio controls are electronic. If my return on Sunday on GA235 was on PK-GGT a B733, also nice interior, somehow feels like it has better than average legroom in Y. Am I imagining thinks or is it a correct observation?


25 HB-IWC : JT has tried business class before (remember the Business Class check in signs in 2F and the business class cars in airports all over the country) an
26 ThaiA345 : I am actually booked in MH to go to HKG in October, but GA is a lot cheaper in C/J. USually A330's are configured for this route but at the rate GA is
27 HB-IWC : Two issues here: * for CGK HKG, if you don't want to dish out the rip off full fare CX is charging you and you also want to avoind GA and its meager
28 Mandala499 : And now, the latest gossip is... GA Boss Emirsyah Satar may be leaving the company (thanks to various factors including the change of the minister of
29 ThaiA345 : There certain mention on the earlier forums about issues to the EU creditors regarding the payments of these a/c? DOnt know whether its true or not t
30 ThaiA345 : We can only cross our fingers and hope for the best. Quite sad really as GA used to be one of the premier carriers in ASEAN (quite some time back now
31 HB-IWC : There are issues with the payments of these aircraft and unserviced debts with the European Export Credit Agency, which is the direct reason why PK-G
32 ThaiA345 : Actually what I have been observing lately is that in most cases, I can better service on the ground than in the air !! But on average, GA's inflight
33 ThaiA345 : Actually how many aircraft does Batavia have in total? And what is Mandala's fleet plans for the future and whats the current status? With regard to
34 Lutfi : Shame, I've got time for Emirsyah. There are some good top managers in GA - Arya for example - but the middle management is, uhm, not so good
35 Mandala499 : Batavia: 2 A319-132 2 A320-239 11 732s (YTA already left the fleet, scrapped, and 3 of the 11 are stored). 11 733s (N493AN is stored in KCH, apparentl
36 Paparadzi : Was seen in KCH but no longer there.
37 Mandala499 : Hasn't been seen here... will do a rego check as soon as I get back from your base *grin* Mandala499
38 GARUDAROD : I was scrolling through some photos and came across a very rare entity, a L1011 with Merpati stickers on it. Where and when did Merpati EVER operate a
39 HB-IWC : I've seen that aircraft myself in 1998 during a holiday in Bali (I wasn't working here yet at that time). The aircraft was wearing a Royal Air Cambod
40 GARUDAROD : There may have been more than one then, the photo I saw had Orient Thai markings on it with Merpati stickers. Has Merpati ever run HAJJ flights??
41 Mandala499 : I think it was to cover for Merpati's disastrous widebody & Aussie route expeditions... their A310 was returned, and they were still trying using the
42 ThaiA345 : Hrmm I did a search on airfleets regarding the B733 which Batavia rejected and was apparently stored in KCH, but all I came up with was this: Search f
43 GFFgold : I didn't have time to read it properly but there was some rather optimistic gumph in today's Jakarta Post business section about GA 'mulling' reopenin
44 HB-IWC : I am not holding my breath. There are no aircraft available for such a venture and the airline's current financial position doesn't allow for big inv
45 Paparadzi : I have photos of both N493AN and its later registration PK-YVX here, taken in KCH.
46 Cartenz : It's no joke at all that Lion Air just recently purchased another 40 frames of 737-900ER. The company must have quite a business plan to utilize that
47 Mandala499 : Cartenz, Most likely the financiers are just convinced that the residual values of the 739ERs are good... There have been cases where financing deals
48 HB-IWC : Yes, I would have posted it earlier yet I was still composing myself after hearing the news. This is such a joke... 100 frames. Anyone who knows this
49 Mandala499 : HB-IWC, If GA want to follow a similar method of financing, there are a few daring companies who are just dying to make a deal with GA on something si
50 ThaiA345 : Still for me, at the end of they the best is just to really wait and see what comes out of the JT B739er order, I mean ..lets see how many in the end
51 Cartenz : One hundred new 737-900ERs purchase is quite a move, even for the responsible party guaranteeing the financing. Somebody must know what they are doing
52 Mandala499 : Well, 100 739ERs in the same config and single previous owner would fetch some nice prices and/or lease rates in the used market... *evil grin* Even
53 Cartenz : And the list goes on. - Will there be any well-trained pilots, flight attendants, ground crews, mechanics, etc.? - Will their pay scales be competitiv
54 Mandala499 : UPDATE: Panic today as news spread on Adam Air's KI112 CGKMES 1400-1615 reported missing at 2000 local. At 2030 Adam Air's president, Adam Suherman de
55 Mandala499 : Update: 1. Adam Air's disappearance was incorrect MetroTV's news this evening that Adam Air KI112 CGKMES went missing was incorrect. It is so far uncl
56 ThaiA345 : I guess with the state of Indonesian aviation nowadays, people tend to overeact and get jumpy. But sometimes they are also not to blame as airlines li
57 HB-IWC : It seems that Mandala has just ordered 25 + 5 A320s at Le Bourget. That's quite a capacity increase compared to the airline's current size. With Lion'
58 Mandala499 : HB-IWC, Well one thing's for sure, the infrastructure will be over stretched and finding a parking spot to put your aircraft overnight will become a t
59 GARUDAROD : Guys, could these new orders be in any way related to the Government decision to ban older aircraft? Do you think there is a side deal so to speak wh
60 Afterburner : I'm wondering about Sriwijaya. We almost never hear any news about this airline (either good or bad one). How is Sriwijaya doing? Is the fleet growing
61 Mandala499 : Sriwijaya? 1 733 coming the end of the month, to be registered PK-CJC (unconfirmed). 1 732 already in operations. White colour, with "operating for /
62 Post contains images Mul : Does anyone have information on what airlines and destinations that serve to and from Bandung? Through searching on google, I found that Garuda's Citi
63 Mandala499 : BDO is a nice city with a good market. It was estimated by a travel agency 5 years back that 10 - 15% of the flights going in and out of Jakarta are B
64 Airbus A380 : MZ flies BDO-SIN every Tue, Thu and Sun.
65 Post contains links and images Paparadzi : Anybody know what happened to Air Asia Indonesia's B733 in MES? Saw it today in the hangar at the Air Force side.
66 Mandala499 : Paparadzi, If it's PK-AWP then I suspect that it's in the hangar being inspected/fixed... It had a hard landing in Medan sometime this week. Mandala49
67 Post contains images Mandala499 : PapaRadzi, PK-AWP made the hard landing on 25th May. The "Serious Incident" is being investigated by NTSC... Hope that explains it
68 Paparadzi : After loking at the full pixels I think it AWP but can't be 100% sure. But why is the inspection at the Air Force side? Also saw both Riau F50 in MES
69 Mandala499 : The ramp space in MES is precious... except for Ramp D, but the hanggar there is too small... they needed to do repairs (perhaps structural)... and ke
70 Jourdan747 : Any more info about Trigana's Twin otter crashed in Mulia last week? Any pics?
71 Paparadzi : Tell us more about it, please.
72 HB-IWC : QZ's schedule is perpetually in a state of utter disarray, so nothing new there. The airline does not have enough frames to even under the best of ci
73 ThaiA345 : Can't the parent company Air Asia Bhd help with anything? I guess with the A320 arriving to KUL at a steady rate, they could maybe transfer more B733
74 Mandala499 : I got this from someone in AK/QZ... AK 966/ AK 967 KUL-BDO-KUL re-open for sale until September 2007, nest period waiting of the AirAsia Group Managem
75 Mandala499 : TGA345, Indonesia Air Asia isn't a subsidiary in the simplest of explanations. It is a franchise carrier and partly owned by AK... If AK keeps sending
76 Mandala499 : The government has released the new ratings for the Part 121 Operators in Indonesia... For those familiar with the industry (ie: those who don't belie
77 Afterburner : Merpati Nusantara (152) should be number 2, the first on the CAT II list.[Edited 2007-06-25 13:58:30]
78 Cartenz : Interesting. How come Airfast Indonesia is not on the list?
79 GARUDAROD : Neither is Adams Air. Or is Adam Sky Connection their new name?
80 Paparadzi : I thought they're long gone.
81 Mandala499 : Airfast Indonesia's AOC is for Charter Operations under CASR Part 135 (with 121 Ops supplement)... it is not a scheduled part 121 AOC holder... Which
82 Cartenz : Mandala499, I thought Airfast Indonesia was the only charter company in Indonesia. If Airfast Indonesia made it to the top of the list, then It sounde
83 Mandala499 : Carstenz, CASR Part 121 Ops=Domestic, Flag, and Supplemental Air Carriers CASR Part 135 Ops=Commuter & Charter carriers Part 135 Ops are
84 Cartenz : Thanks for the info. I didn't know that there were a lot of charter companies in Indo. So, Airfast is the only company operating big jets, such as md8
85 Mandala499 : Well, Pelita has F100s... which are 732 sized or so... Transwisata has it too, actually, so does EastIndo aswell (leased to FlyExpress) Airfast does t
86 Cartenz : Thanks for the info, Mandala499. Yup, Freeport used to use a F27 in early days for flights to Biak, Darwin, Weipa, and Cairns from Timika. Then came B
87 Mandala499 : By the way, Freeport used to utilize a corporate B752 for New Orleans-Timika run. I hear that it's been used several times... When the 752 is in town,
88 Cartenz : Freeport used to own a B752, but not anymore. I'm not surprised to see that they are still flying B752 or other corporate jets to Timika. Well, I actu
89 ThaiA345 : Hey All, I am planning to take Lion's B737-900er next friday to SUB. But I am getting conflicting reports. From travel agents, they said 1640hrs is th
90 Post contains links HB-IWC : EU bans all Indonesian Airlines It seems that Garuda's apparent plans for a return to Amsterdam maybe thwarted by an impending ban on all Indonesian a
91 HB-IWC : Lorena Air to take to the skies on July 7th Lorena Air is finally set to take off and now plans to launch operations on 07/07-07. The airline would at
92 Mandala499 : Re: Lorena I doubt the planes will be from Futura, as Lorena has decided to bypass the mandated agents of Futura and stab them in the back (Airplane l
93 Mandala499 : Looks like 07/07/07 will not be the first flight date for Lorena, just got information that on that day, they'll open a new office for Lorena Air (an
94 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Hey Guys, I managed to get on JT's B739er this coming Fri night to SUB, really looking forward to post a TR on it later on But its just to try it out,
95 Post contains images Mandala499 : Enjoy Indonesia's Ryanair then ! Nice new plane, with a cup of Aqua... Mandala499
96 ThaiA345 : Dont forget the nice cardboard 'snack' box !!! :P
97 HB-IWC : Do they still even offer that? I though they did away with the snack box by now. Or do even el cheapo Indonesians still need something to munch on du
98 Post contains images Mandala499 : SJ still have their snack box (2 items inside) on all routes. 7P still have their snack box (1 small muffin) on most routes JT/IW have reduced their c
99 Post contains links Mandala499 : As we enter July, here is a summary of accidents, incidents, events of concern, and events reported on the news that are determined to be non-events.
100 HB-IWC : PK-GGD PK-GZO PK-GGO PK-GSH PK-GHQ PK-GZJ
101 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Well, by experience lets just say that I am usually only 1 out of maybe 3 people on an entire flight who rejects being served that dreadful snack box
102 Mandala499 : The Indonesian aviation news of today... - Govt declared commitment towards better air safety. - Govt declared its disappointment in front of ICAO, an
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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 51 posted Thu Apr 26 2007 22:07:48 by LAXDESI
German Aviation Thread: Part 1 posted Thu Apr 26 2007 10:20:51 by TommyBP251b
Indian Aviation Thread: Part 50 posted Tue Apr 17 2007 17:02:35 by LAXDESI
Indian Aviation Thread: Part 49 posted Mon Apr 2 2007 20:50:39 by LAXDESI
Indonesia Aviation Thread 1 posted Fri Mar 30 2007 13:47:20 by Mandala499
Indian Aviation Thread: Part 48 posted Sat Mar 24 2007 00:11:51 by LAXDESI
Indian Aviation Thread: Part 47 posted Wed Mar 14 2007 23:51:33 by LAXDESI
Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 3 posted Mon Mar 12 2007 16:12:03 by AsoRock