Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48 Posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4566 times:
We all know that KLM, Avianca, QANTAS, and Mexicana are the oldest airlines around, in that order. But what were the shortest lived airlines? At least in recent history anyway.....And I don't mean airlines that have just recently started. I'm talking about airlines that already have come and gone.
What were they and how long were they around?
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
I remember JetTrain. I saw them in Pittsburgh before. Very ugly paint scheme. How about Family Airlines? They shut down before they even began and even had a 747 painted in full colors.......also ugly, but just my opinion.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1875 times:
I remember both airlines...I saw JetTrain at EWR once back in 1996. Family Airlines was a paper airline with one 747 painted in that silly red, white, and blue livery with the kid in the baseball cap on it.
I don't think that they count becuse even though the plane existed, to the best of my knowledge, no flights were ever actually flown.
It was a long time ago (1993 I believe), and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the reason Family never got airborne was that the person starting it had been convicted of embezzlement, or corruption, or something along those lines, and the DOT found him managerially unfit to run an airline, and denied him the permits.
So again...who was the shortest airline THAT ACTUALLY FLEW FLIGHTS?
Trippleseven From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
Are you sure about those airlines you listed in your first posts are the oldest? I always figired that the US had the oldest airlines, being that we pioneered flight. Do you know what year those airlines were established? Just curious.
Raggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1811 times:
Color Air of Norway. It flew three 737- 300s back and forth between Oslo and cities in western and norhern Norway. It think it had to give up after less than a year..The competition from SAS and Braathens was too fierce.
Jabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
Does anyone remember Royal West or States West Airlines? Both operated out of BUR, Royal to RNO and States West to Laughlin, NV. Royal West used the BAC-146 and States West flew Beech-1900's and Shorts 360's. I flew on States West in the late 1980's. Jeff
Mikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1786 times:
JetTrain was orignally named AirTrain.
Here's a bad pic (taken when I was shooting prints )
Trans International Express is still around with Shorts 360's out of JFK. I don't think they do sked service anymore but did see a movement about 2 weeks ago. It's too bad that B747-300 never made it out of SIN.
Anyone remember Florida Express. They flew BAC 1-11's back in the mid-late 80's before becoming a part of Braniff II in late '87/early '88. It's been so long since I've worked for them that I forgot when they acutally started business.
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
PAN AM 2 a second carrier founded by Martin Shugrue ex EAL cheif with a fleet of ex EAL aircraft like the A300s, and the rest 727-200, 737-400s were all from the disasterous Carnival merger that put the airline in it's grave.
KIWI an all 727-200 fleet that flew out of EWR serving the East coast and parts of the midwest as well as Puerto Rico.
MGM Grand Air
Legend will be up there soon if nothing happens to help them out financially
I hope National isn't next because they were #2 on domestic carriers in Conde Nast Traveller
The Bristish Carrier Court line was there along with Laker
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
VirginA340, those airlines lasted a few years, but all are gone, unfortunately. It's too bad to see a good airline like RenoAir or PanAm II or a promising carrier like Legend or National go under like that. The death of PAII probably led to Marty Shugrue's death, which was said to be stress-related.
I am curious as to who finished first of the domestic carriers in Conde Nast, but I am 99% sure it's Southwest. Could you post
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 42
Reply 17, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Dates of Foundation:
Qantas - 1920
KLM - 1920 (Oldest airline to have operated under the same name all its life time)
Avianca - 1919
Mexicana - 1921
As for the US Major 6:
AA - 1930 (from amalagamation of companies dating back to 1926)
Continental - 1934 (As Varney Speed Lines)
Delta - 1924 (As the world's first cropdusting company!)
Northwest - 1926
United - 1931
USAir(ways) - 1939 (All American Aviation)
So sorry, USA, but the world's oldest operating airline comes from Colombia of all places, followed by the Australia and The Netherlands
"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
QF767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1682 times:
There was heaps of media hype about the new Australian airline that was sposed to start up this year called Spirit Airlines. They sounded confident and were ready to tackle Qantas and Ansett in the domestic market - by the way, they haven't left the ground yet!!!Nothing heard on them since I think last year!! Oh well
Aussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1681 times:
Kiwi International flying low cost trans-tasman flights (Australia-NZ) only lasted about a year in the mid 90s. The CEO afterwards went to jail for stealing millions from the company (no wonder it went bankrupt, considering it only had 1 aircaft, 2 just before the end).
Also Compass II, with MD-80s only lasted a few months flying Australian domestic routes.