OD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 36 Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2349 times:
After more than 2 decades, the US lifted the ban on Lebanon. Here is the quote from Naharnet:
U.S. President Bush lifted a ban on air traffic to Lebanon imposed since the 1985 hijacking of a TWA jetliner to Beirut.
A press release issued by the White House said Bush was determined that the “prohibition of transportation services to Lebanon … is herby further amended to permit U.S. air carriers under contract to the United States Government to engage in foreign air transportation to and from Lebanon of passengers, including U.S. and non-U.S. citizens.”
FLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4930 posts, RR: 53 Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2254 times:
"U.S. air carriers under contract to the United States Government to engage in foreign air transportation to and from Lebanon of passengers, including U.S. and non-U.S. citizens"
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15728 posts, RR: 47 Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2246 times:
NYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1381 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2232 times:
Can't tell if that's meant to be sarcastic or not. It's to supply aid to the beleagured pro-western Lebanese government, while they fight al-Qaeda inspired militants.
From the above quote, it sounds like it's just military/USG planes. Too bad. Would love to see commercial flights jump in.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15728 posts, RR: 47 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2200 times:
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 4): Can't tell if that's meant to be sarcastic or not.
No not at all; I figured if the US would have pulled back restrictions it would have been post Syrian pullback and pre Israeli incursion, and not whilst Lebanon was battling Al-Qaeda relatives in Tripoli.
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 4): It's to supply aid to the beleagured pro-western Lebanese government, while they fight al-Qaeda inspired militants.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2047 times:
Quoting OD720 (Thread starter): to permit U.S. air carriers under contract to the United States Government
Can someone explain this? It seems to be referring to military ops. Therefore all the suspected plans of DL entering the market is worthless at this point.
OD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 36 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
Quoting OD720 (Thread starter): permit U.S. air carriers under contract to the United States Government to engage in foreign air transportation to and from Lebanon of passengers, including U.S. and non-U.S. citizens.”
It clearly says "of passengers, including U.S. and non-U.S. citizens"
In any case, it would become clearer probably in the coming few hours or day.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22036 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1973 times:
Let me clear this up..
Here is a copy of the White House Memorandum on this issue:
Quote: For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 6, 2007
Memorandum for the Secretary of Transportation
White House News
SUBJECT: Partial Resumption of Travel to Lebanon to Promote Peace and Security
By virtue of the authority vested in me by 49 U.S.C. 40106(b) and for the purpose of promoting peace and security in Lebanon, I hereby determine that the prohibition of transportation services to Lebanon established by Presidential Determination 85-14 of July 1, 1985, as amended by Presidential Determination 92-41 of August 17, 1992, and Presidential Determination 98-32 of June 19, 1998, is hereby further amended to permit U.S. air carriers under contract to the United States Government to engage in foreign air transportation to and from Lebanon of passengers, including U.S. and non-U.S. citizens, and their accompanying baggage; of goods for humanitarian purposes; and of any other cargo or material.
All other prohibitions set forth in the above-referenced Presidential determinations remain in effect.
You are directed to implement this determination immediately.
You are authorized and directed to publish this determination in the Federal Register.
This ammendment was required and requested specifically by a few US airlines that have been charted by the US government to provide both cargo and if needed for passenger flights to Lebanon.
You can somewhat read between the lines of what US thinking is about the latest Lebanon tension build up.
The prohibition still very much remains in effect and bars and regularly scheduled commercial services between the countries.
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Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1873 times:
This will help MEA become a full member for Skyteam sooner I believe. They are already an associate member. I could see NW to be the first airline to Lebanon if it happens as the Detroit area and midwest house a lot of mid-easterners.
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22036 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1851 times:
You guys still dont quite understand this
This order Does not in anyway change the ban on regular commercial services to Lebanon. The prohibition remains very much in place.
All this allows if for US air carriers under contract to the US Government to fly missions to Lebanon.
If you are not aware of recent on goings, the US government much prefer to use a less overt method then sending USAF aircraft.
Quote: New US military aid for Lebanon
Saturday, 26 May 2007
US military planes have delivered more equipment to the Lebanese army, as its stand-off with Islamic militants at a Palestinian refugee camp continued.
In addition the passenger portion of this memorandum is incase either troops needs to be sent to support ops, or a humanitarian evacuation becomes necessary from Lebanon as was the case last summer.
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FlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6297 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 18): You guys still dont quite understand this
This order Does not in anyway change the ban on regular commercial services to Lebanon. The prohibition remains very much in place.
All this allows if for US air carriers under contract to the US Government to fly missions to Lebanon.
If you are not aware of recent on goings, the US government much prefer to use a less overt method then sending USAF aircraft.
Exactly. The only US Airliners that might fly to BEY are airliners under charter from the government. Also I would not be to surprised to see some Atlas or Southern Air 747s go to BEY with equitment etc.. for the Lebanese government. But this planes would be under contract by the US government which would allow them to fly to BEY.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24897 posts, RR: 60 Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1439 times:
Quoting BA (Reply 23): Lebaneseians? The country is called Lebanon and the people are called Lebanese.
Haha And from a European too!!!
It would be good to see flights from BEY to JFK on ME but I dont think it will happen as stated above its more to let aid (arms) into BEY to fight the rebels. Still its a start I guess.
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Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1367 times:
HAHA it is really funny to read this post. Some members explaining the information (flights are not scheduled passenger flights), while others totally ignoring it with suppositions as to who will get route rights first and to where..
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3082 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1289 times:
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 16): Where in US are the biggest population of Lebanese-ians?
Micke - I read that as Lesbian at first, I guess my mind is in the gutter.
I would say the Detroit Michigan area as Lebonese have lived there for many generations. Oh and Toledo too because that is where Max Klinger is from.
25 NASCARAirforce: Northwests new 787s will be good for this too on DTW-BEY, which they won't have to make that Shannon stop like RJ does when flying between DTW and Am
26 MEACEDAR: I just heard on LBC, a Lebanese tv network, the MEA's President, El-Hout, said that they are thinking about applying to some US destinations. I say JF
27 BA: They would need to order additional aircraft. The four A330-200s MEA has on order are replacing its existing three leased A330-200s, so they will hav
28 BrightCedars: The text is very clear, this is to allow the likes of World Airways and Polar Air Cargo and co to operate flights to BEY on behalf of the US Governmen
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