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Horizon Air Dash8-400 At Palwaukee, IL Airport  
User currently offlineMidway DC9-10 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Hello,

I was driving by Chicago Executive Airport, formerly known as Palwaukee Airport when I noticed what looked like a Horizon Airline plane in the distance. I drove up to the Signature Terminal to see it was a Dash 8-400 with a Canadian Reg #. Does anyone have any information on this plane as to why it was here and when it will depart? Even though I have seen other oddball planes at this airport this is the first one bearing an airline name. To top it off, Horizon doesn't even fly to any city in Illinois.

Any information would be helpful as I might try to take photos if it is still there in the morning.

Thanks,

Dave

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4084 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Airline De Havilland
Flight Number 1
Departure City (Airport) Minneapolis, MN (MSP)
Departure Time 06/06/2007 12:31 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Chicago, IL (PWK)
Arrival Time 06/06/2007 01:33 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Dehavilland Dash 8 + DHC8-400
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived

My guess would be a demo flight. Anyone is the Chicago-area looking at 70 seat tprops?


User currently offlineSkyrat From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

UA?? Looking for a OO E120 & YV Dash replacement?


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22680 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Quoting Skyrat (Reply 2):
UA?? Looking for a OO E120 & YV Dash replacement?

I doubt UA would come all the way out to Prospect Heights to take a look at it. Perhaps Motorola wants some for the corporate fleet?



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User currently offlineMidway DC9-10 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 3913 times:

Does anyone know when this plane will be departing? Also, I have seen the house demo colors' plane here a few years ago so why does this one have full Horizon colors?

User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

could it be on its way to PDX or SEA on a delivery flight


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User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Quoting Doug_Or (Reply 5):
could it be on its way to PDX or SEA on a delivery flight

Not likely if it still had its Canadian reg on it. I'm guessing this is to be N428QX.


User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

It just left PWK about an hour ago..10am CST. It headed due north right over MKE and then just turned east for YYZ.

Also the previous track on flightaware shows that it went for a 30min flight this morning at 8:12am, looks like a demo flight in deed.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DHC1


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

I saw an unpainted Q400 at YZD on May 27th. It carried no registration, but had a sticker identifying it as Msn 4164 for Horizon Air. Maybe it was this one?

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Quoting Midway DC9-10 (Reply 4):
I have seen the house demo colors' plane here a few years ago so why does this one have full Horizon colors?

Because the plane is scheduled to be delivered to Horizon.

Quoting Midway DC9-10 (Thread starter):
To top it off, Horizon doesn't even fly to any city in Illinois.

My guess is it was just out for a test flight. No big deal.... very common..



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User currently offlineMidway DC9-10 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

EMBQA,

Both thoughts did come to mind; just seemed odd but this airport has had some strange visitors in recent years.

Thanks for the comments.

Dave


User currently offlineBAW2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

I just got off the phone with one of my friends who is a ramper at KPWK. He said they parked at signature flight support and loaded about 25 pax. Dignitaries included-->Glenn Tilton and others from UA. He also went on to say that the airport manager said that UA is looking to possibly purchase this type at some point. This was only test flight to check the feasible of this aircraft.


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

Quoting BAW2198 (Reply 11):

Any good journalist in Chicago should have gotten this lead if it were true.


User currently offlineRW717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

If it was headed for Toronto, maybe it was going to Porter Air.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22680 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3265 times:

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 12):
Any good journalist in Chicago should have gotten this lead if it were true.

Jon Hilkevitch doesn't usually pick up much in the suburbs, and the Daily Herald is far too dumb to do something like watch Flightaware. Furthermore, everyone who cares/writes about transportation is focusing on transit funding. Perhaps UA brought it to PWK to avoid attention?



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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 3201 times:
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Quoting RW717 (Reply 13):
If it was headed for Toronto, maybe it was going to Porter Air.

Since these birds are built in Toronto (Downsview to be accurate), why would a plane painted with Horizon markings be headed for Porter via Chicago? Could it just be headed back to the shop for some reason?



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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
Perhaps UA brought it to PWK to avoid attention?

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User currently offlineGMUAirbusA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 243 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 16):
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
Perhaps UA brought it to PWK to avoid attention?

checkmark

yes

shhh

sly

-m

airplane

Looks like they weren't too sneaky. A couple of A.Net civilians picked up on that! We're awesome!

Cheers,
GMUAirbusA320


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

Wouldn't the 400 be the perfect replacement aircraft for Aloha?? Let alone all the sub 2hr CRJ trips as well as the E120's.....significant fuel reduction and far more cabin comfort than the original CRJ's which are getting long in the tooth.

User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3020 times:
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Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 18):
Wouldn't the 400 be the perfect replacement aircraft for Aloha??

I've always thought that. Inter-Island traffic in Hawaii is just the kind of route network the Q400 was designed for. But Island Air was forced to withdraw its Q400 (they were planning on getting more) when Go showed up and launched the current round of insane price wars using CRJs. Island Air was in no position to match those fares and I suspect their existing Dash 8-200 traffic has suffered. I wonder if they'll be able to hold out much longer. Too bad -- I always use them when I island-hop in Hawaii.



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User currently offlineSkyrat From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

I think the Q400 would be perfect for UAX. I can see United ExPlus Q400s flying the mountain cities as well as the west coast flying.


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3517 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Anybody wanna venture a guess as to what it was doing in Minneapolis before it came to PWK?


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User currently offlineBAW2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

saab replacement  crossfingers 



or air refueling platform for the NW DC 9's on transcon service  stirthepot   Big grin



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting Skyrat (Reply 20):
Q400s flying the mountain cities

Not that familiar with the q400 perf....would it handle the ASE flights better than the CR7 during peak winter??????


User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 649 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting Skyrat (Reply 20):
I think the Q400 would be perfect for UAX. I can see United ExPlus Q400s flying the mountain cities as well as the west coast flying.

I wouldn't mind ACV being an all Q-400 city. QX already flies them into here, why not United as well?

So the next Horizon Air Q 400 ship to be delivered will be N428QX? I flew on N426QX on May 3rd. It still had that new airplane smell since it was delivered a week before that...... 25 April 2007.

It looks like the next ships to be delivered to QX are currently in Canadian reg # ...... C-FLTT, C-FMES, C-FMEU and C-FMFH. Check it out.......

http://www.propandjet.net/turboprop/dh84pl1.htm



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25 Skyrat : Not for sure about their performance either, but I do know the CR7 did struggle during this past winter. I have heard rumors coming out of ASE that F
26 SkyexRamper : UAL could eliminate all the useless short SkyWest CRJ runs out of LAX. Also replacing the EMB-120s with the Q400 would probably be cheaper.
27 Pilottim747 : The aircraft was registered C-FLTL. It did a demonstration flight at MSP, similar to the flight it flew out of PWK. Presumably this was another demons
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