DALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2417 times:
NW relies on the Skyteam network to feeder passengers to their european gateways, namely AMS en CDG for a bit so I don't think they will expand too much into Europe unless there are destinations that can fill up the front end of the aircraft.
Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight: AMS-FRA-AMS
KDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 825 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2339 times:
Am I they only person that thinks flying in a B752 across the pond from the midwest does not sound like fun? I think NW should cut back NWA48 and NWA96 and change NWA68 and NWA52 to a B744. However, I think service from KDTW-EDDV would be helpful with Wolfsburg and Detroit.
LHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 560 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2319 times:
Quoting KDTWFlyer (Reply 16): I think NW should cut back NWA48 and NWA96 and change NWA68 and NWA52 to a B744.
I think that would be a good idea too so NW could have the extra capacity without the extra costs of operating two flights, but I think NW also wanted to mimic LH's schedule by offering two daily flights - especially the late departure. The business travelers really like have two daily flights to choose from. If NW's loads to Germany are like LH's they wouldn't have a problem filling a daily 744.
I think it was also a 744 shortly after the McNamara terminal opened. I remember that because my dad flew that flight on his way back from MUC and we got our new dog (now five years and still going strong) a day before he left.
Weren't there rumors of flights from DTW to DUB and MAN starting up sometime next year? I could've sworn reading things about them being likely destinations with the 757s.
VictorKilo From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1923 times:
Both DUS and BRU are within a two hour drive of AMS, and all flights between DUS/BRU and AMS are KLM Cityhopper flights, either F50 or F70 (BRU only). Traffic between DTW and DUS/BRU are faced with a long car drive, a train ride, or a turboprop or small jet flight if they are routed via AMS. And while a low-yielding college student may be fine using their Eurail pass to get from AMS to BRU or DUS if the transatlantic fare is right, it is sub-ideal for the front of the cabin passenger, or the auto supplier engineer engineer flying last-minute in the economy cabin who needs to be at their plant in Belgium or the Rhine-Ruhr area as quickly as possible. So it appears to me that NW's strategy is to go to markets where they can fill the front of the cabin, either with DTW or connecting traffic, in markets where connecting in AMS doesn't make much sense.
As for future NW markets with the 757, I would think that "markets where connecting in AMS doesn't make sense for high yield passengers" would be the template - which would point to markets like DUB and MAN, but also MAD and LIS. I'm not sure if there's enough O&D between DTW and those destinations - or pax where DTW would make a logical connecting point - to make the flight work. But I think you'll see destinations like that before destinations like TXL or MUC.
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 20): Sorry, I couldn't resist. But you must have had a very hard time writing that! Wink
Quoting VictorKilo (Reply 23): As for future NW markets with the 757, I would think that "markets where connecting in AMS doesn't make sense for high yield passengers" would be the template - which would point to markets like DUB and MAN, but also MAD and LIS. I'm not sure if there's enough O&D between DTW and those destinations - or pax where DTW would make a logical connecting point - to make the flight work. But I think you'll see destinations like that before destinations like TXL or MUC.
TXL does not have enough O&D to DTW to fill a daily plane, not even a 757. 80% of pax would connect there to other US destinations. That would still be better than fly to AMS or FRA, then to a hub in the US, then to your destination. Besides, many people in Berlin would take NW to fly one of their flying fossils.
BTW, is NW ever going to repl..., ah, never mind.
: I don't see the need for NWA96 landing in EDDF at like 1:25PM. Why don't they just make NWA52 a B744 to take up some of the additional pax that were
: Business pax absolutely love late departures. It's one of the most common pieces of feedback that we get. They're a favorite of mine as well because
: Interesting never knew late departures were that popular. Does anyone know how NW to EDDL is fairing?