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Qantas Cabin Crew Salary A$80 000 A Year?  
User currently offlineDocPepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 82296 times:

Hi everyone

I was casually speaking to a Qantas flight attendant last week and he said that his annual salary with allowances all in worked out to about A$80 000 a year. Can anyone verify this? If it is I think everyone should apply to QF!

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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 82292 times:

How many years is he flying for QF, what is his position (Purser, F/A etc), what's his schedule like etc etc?


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User currently offlineDocPepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 82246 times:

Been flying for 3 years, works in J, not too sure about position

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 82041 times:

Quoting DocPepz (Thread starter):
Hi everyone

I was casually speaking to a Qantas flight attendant last week and he said that his annual salary with allowances all in worked out to about A$80 000 a year. Can anyone verify this? If it is I think everyone should apply to QF!

It's possible if he/she is a CSM (Clients Service Manager)...

EK413



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User currently offlineFlyingroo From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 82041 times:

"Base Salary" of an Australian flight attendant is somewhere between $40-$50K. Travel related allowances would be around $15-18K, so that's already $68K, taking the upper end of estimates. So not sure what the F/A also factored into his package but it could include:
- employer superannuation contributions
- value of any distributions from QPS (Qantas Profitsharing Scheme)
- value of any discounted travel received

But even adding all those up $80K does seem a little high although not inconceivable if the F/A did a little rounding up.
 cheeky 


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 81991 times:

During the SAS strike, Danish SAS flight attendants were reported as having monthly incomes of about DKK 50,000 per month, or about AUD 130,000 per year!

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/resor/story/0,2789,771578,00.html

This is in line with what I've been reading in aviation management books - SK's cabin crew are the highest paid in the world!


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 81973 times:

THat equates to about a £33,000 in UK Stirling. Not sure if that is so fantastic for FA's based in the UK flying for say BA. Perhaps someone will clarify.

User currently offlineAerohottie From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 81924 times:

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 6):
THat equates to about a £33,000 in UK Stirling. Not sure if that is so fantastic for FA's based in the UK flying for say BA. Perhaps someone will clarify.

On the UK websites for FA recruiting i've seen figures of around 17-22k as a base for BA and VS FA's



What?
User currently offlineFlyingroo From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 81814 times:

Back in 2004 when QF were setting up the London F/A base, the following was being quoted.

"Flight attendants moving to London would get a base salary of £12,220 a year, £580 in "fixed allowances", £4000 in "sector pay" and an annualised lump sum of £7250.

In all, a £24,030 annual package.

So compared to BA & VS, looks like QF London based F/A's are being paid a lot less.


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 81792 times:

Quoting Aerohottie (Reply 7):
On the UK websites for FA recruiting i've seen figures of around 17-22k as a base for BA and VS FA's

I was told not so long ago that salaries for VS FA's were about the lowest in the industry, but again, I dont know that foe sure but if your starting at a basic 17k, thats quite low. Maybe if you throw in the layover monies they get (assuming thats not included) it might look more credible. One hope so as with the cost of living over here in the UK, 17k a year is not going to go very far.


User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 81741 times:

Flybe Cabin Crew are only only on just over 10k a yr basic

User currently offlineIb16uk From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 81710 times:

VS crew do get a low wage from what my friends have told me, BA LGW crews get a low wage aswell compared to their colleagues at LHR

User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 81366 times:

The A$80K package would be all-in, including super-annuation and allowances (gotta love those FRA trips), not all cash. However, A$60K is a more realistic number and event that's after several years service.

User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 81330 times:

Yes but he is probably adding in the tax on his non taxable allowances .. So then he would have a figure that could be compared to any other job ..ie if he went for a job to get the same salary at QF he would need a job on the ground of xxxx amount of dollars to get his take home pay .. I know when i went to the bank they added tax onto my tax free allowances and my annual salary rocked up .. Actually looked very good !!!!


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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5240 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 81270 times:

Quoting Flyingroo (Reply 4):
But even adding all those up $80K does seem a little high although not inconceivable if the F/A did a little rounding up

At near $80k it is no wonder Geoff Dixon wants to cut their salary costs!


User currently offlineQuetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 81184 times:

Quoting ETA Unknown (Reply 12):
The A$80K package would be all-in, including super-annuation and allowances (gotta love those FRA trips), not all cash. However, A$60K is a more realistic number and event that's after several years service.

A$60K would be far more realistic. It really depends on what department/base you a flying for and your seniority. Sounds like you talking to a Long-haul flight attendant?
The difference in pay between a 20 year long-hauler out of Sydney and a brand new sort-hauler in say Melbourne, flying 3.5 hour duties to exotic locations like Canberra are vastly incomparable.
I doubt you were talking to a CSM.. the guys that wear the red tie. Firstly, I doubt that a CSM would be unproffesional enough to actually tell you. Secondly, they would earn a bit more.. around $100000 more likely.
The bulk of the newbies coming through, ie 'casuals' if that's how you'd like to refer to them are on far less and do not receive such 'luxuries' as sick pay, holiday pay, staff travel etc....

Quoting ANstar (Reply 14):
Quoting Flyingroo (Reply 4):
But even adding all those up $80K does seem a little high although not inconceivable if the F/A did a little rounding up

At near $80k it is no wonder Geoff Dixon wants to cut their salary costs!

Greedy Geoff would like to cut the salaries so he can fill his own pocket.



No matter how far you push the envelope, it will always remain Stationery.
User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 81050 times:

A friend who is a CSM with QF earns well over $100K


Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineEdgaren From Venezuela, joined Feb 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 81023 times:

What about salaries for EK cabin crew?....I've heard they pay a basic salary of 1000 USD ( AED 3642) to new cabin crew, plus furnished accommodation and travel allowances. You might end up making more than that depending on how many hours you fly...what do u think? best regards.


Saludos, Edgar.


User currently offlineIAHFLYER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 80834 times:

Quoting DocPepz (Thread starter):
I was casually speaking to a Qantas flight attendant last week and he said that his annual salary with allowances all in worked out to about A$80 000 a year. Can anyone verify this? If it is I think everyone should apply to QF!

Is this Australian dollars, U.S. Dollars, New Zealand dollars or Hong Kong dollars?



Little airports with the big jets are the best!! Floyd
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 80606 times:

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 18):
Is this Australian dollars, U.S. Dollars, New Zealand dollars or Hong Kong dollars?

Australian dollars. We used A$ or AUD to quote our currency!

It does seem like a lot - is he based out of Aus? or UK?


User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 80486 times:

Its very easy to make that sort of $$ being based ex-Aus...but as someone has mentioned...you need to FLY in order to get that sum...and this means LAX, JFK and LHR patterns.

Not local Asia and JNB.... Acutally PER returns are becoming popular with Sernior crew as they offer Overtime.

In this package, you will have the following figures included...

Salary (Aus permanent is around 40K)
Allowances in Slip port...
Over Time
Long Range flying

And plus it will be before Tax.

I sincerely hope this gentleman wasnt talking to you whilst he was in uniform or whilst working as that is very unprofessional.

Also...are you sure three years?? LongHaul have not recruited permanent AUS longhaul crew in around 6 years i believe (except for the ex-SH crew whom have returned from LHR base)...Maybe AKL or LHR based im assuming!

Cheers


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 80430 times:

Quoting DocPepz (Thread starter):
about A$80 000 a year.

How much in US $ ?

Thanks!


User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 80404 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 21):
How much in US $ ?

About $67,500 USD.


User currently offlineQuetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 80314 times:

Quoting DocPepz (Thread starter):
Hi everyone

I was casually speaking to a Qantas flight attendant last week and he said that his annual salary with allowances all in worked out to about A$80 000 a year. Can anyone verify this? If it is I think everyone should apply to QF!

Hi Doctor Pepper,

Given that you bothered to post, I thought you'd be interested in answering this....
In your considered opinion, how much should a flight attendant be paid?
In your answer I'd expect that you would factor in local living conditions and a whole range of variables - ie Australian based staff would encounter different domestic expenses to say a North American or Thai based crew.............
I'm not surprised to hear that SAS crews earn plenty. After all, they do live in just about the most expensive part of the world.

Your profile states that you are from Singapore.... are you aware of SQ crew's earnings?
Looking forward to your reply.

[Edited 2007-06-08 07:07:16]


No matter how far you push the envelope, it will always remain Stationery.
User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 80314 times:

Guys, some tram drivers in Melbourne make A$90,000 a year.

Some train drivers in Melbourne as well rack up in the high A$120ks...

Does that help put things into perspective?  Smile

Nothing wrong with long haul F/As making a decent living...

Cheers.


25 Quetzal : And given that a 'modest' entry level house/unit these days is averageing A$400000......... fair is fair. Some further perspective Dr. P, Jetstar (es
26 AY104 : I personally take a very dim view of anyone asking another what his/her salary is. It would be wonderful to think that cabin crews make a good living,
27 QANTASFOREVER : Domestically, despite the fact that the UK has a high cost of living factor, Australia also expands costs for most goods or services compared with ot
28 Starlionblue : They need it to pay off their debts from the first 10-15 years. Agreed. I don't discuss what I make. It's a private matter between me and my employer
29 VH-BZF : I think you'll find it's Customer Service Manager! Anyway, I think you'll find that this crew members salary is Gross, before tax? I maybe wrong? Wit
30 COEI2007 : Most of the UK charters pay about the same (XLA, FCA etc)! Its rediculous! It depends on how many hours he's working per month, layovers, per-diem pa
31 Post contains images EK413 : Client / Customer same thing EK413
32 TACAA320 : How can you do that with less money?
33 Nzrich : i think you would have a better buying ability on 80,000aud than 33,000pound as you spend a pound nearly like a dollar so in the end an australian on
34 Miami1 : Jetstar domestic FAs on Year 3 pay (where it tops out) earn around A$50-55K with overtime. Their base salary is around $41K and their only other allo
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