Completely untrue. The flight performs extremely well. It has shown particularly good loads in upper and premium. Considering it is still a relatively immature route it has shown very ecouraging gains in every area.
Aussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5767 times:
The problems the route is facing is a lot of pax wish to travel with them through to LHR but there are a few problems with availability especially in the upper cabins as reported by SevenHeavy. What VS is trying to do is market the destination of HKG for them to boost yields. What VS need to think about is adding a 2nd HKG-LHR flight, however I am not aware if anything is on that horizon for them at this stage. Perhaps someone can elaborate.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 22106 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4984 times:
Quoting Swiftski (Reply 6): It's the 2nd HKG flight that is needed; to cater for the pax with HKG as final destination. At the moment a lot carry on to SYD, so wanting to fly the LHR-HKG becomes harder to find availabilty.
So if it's the premium demand, and they need more LHR-HKG, then make the second flight a 343 to HKG?
It has a higher premium ratio than the 744, with good cargo room (though at that range, I imagine it would have to be low density west bound).
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
MAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2939 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4736 times:
VS should still consider rerouting LHR-KUL-SYD as i am certain there is money to be made here and it would be a better mix of passengers for yield - with possibly more seats available for premium pax between LHR and SYD.
Travelling monthly between LHR and KUL - its astonishing that flights continue to be heavily booked throughout this year so far in all 3 classes on MAS and for many regular travellers on this route - some healthy competition would be much appreciated.
However - am not sure parents SQ would be so keen on this idea as they take a lot of overspill via SIN... (as witnessed 2 weeks ago as there were a lot of pax on my connecting KL-SIN shuttle that were also on SQ320 ino LHR.)
AirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4575 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10): So if it's the premium demand, and they need more LHR-HKG, then make the second flight a 343 to HKG?
Yes, I would certainly agree with you on that. On the many occasions I try to fly to SYD I have to juggle my dates quite a bit as it's connecting with the LHR-HKG-LHR leg which cause severe problems with the availability.
this has been discussed to death in previous posts.
BA left at a time when demand was very poor particularly in premium cabins (due to the Asian Financial Crisis of 97 and then 9/11) so KUL became a victim of its great 'Future Shape and Size' campaign. BA then relinquished its traffic rights to MAS - in effect preventing itself from returning with any ease.
Over the last 6 months of so - it seems that demand on the LHR-KUL sector is gaining in strength and perhaps also helped by the ex-KUL market (which is also recovering) since the Malaysian Ringgit was depegged from the USD. With MAS filling their seats twice daily and airlines like EK, GF, SQ, QR and EY starting to do well again from connecting traffic into/out of KUL - i am just wondering if there would be further demand for another carrier to offer a non-stop service.
Given the problem VS seems to be facing as posted by previous posters - with the demand for its LHR-HKG sector filling the aircraft - maybe selecting a city like KUL instead to stopover would resolve that as this would provide more availability for LHR-SYD passengers with LHR-KUL taking up any slack. KUL is also a relatively cheap station to operate into - given that Malaysia Airports charges very little compared with other airport in the region and perhaps this could improve their yield on the LHR-SYD run.
Of course this could change with Air Asia X planning to commence flights to the UK within the next 6-9 months.
Jetstar of course is also starting a KUL-SYD service in 3 months time so i guess this may be a further deterrant.