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Air Midwest Pulling Out  
User currently offlineWetleaseWill From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

I just saw an FAA document that outlines their ruling on AirMidwest stopping service to most of their Beech 1900 locations. The FAA intervened as all of the locations within this documetn are subsidized by EAS programs. Does anyone know what Air Midwest is doing? Are they going to do away with their turbo props?

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User currently offlinePaladin87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?

 Confused Are you thinking of Chalks running the Mallards?

Air Midwest did have a problem with a 1900 probably 6 years ago or more now down at CLT. But that had to do with faulty maintenance and being out of WB limits, not a wing spar. And like I said it was 6 years ago.


User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?

They are ending Beech operations for a number of reasons. One is from a profit standpoint (or lack thereof) the other being the pilot shortage. MAG is also having pilot retention issues and intends to use the AMW pilots over at Mesa and Freedom. I have heard rumors of a sale of the assets of Air Midwest to another Beech operator.

Mesa Will Be Pulling Out Of UT And NV EAS Early posted Fri May 25 2007 21:43:04 by Goldenshield
Air Midwest And US Airways At Kansas City posted Thu May 24 2007 15:34:01 by MasseyBrown
Air Midwest Drops EAS Flights To VIS/MCE/ELY posted Tue May 22 2007 21:26:59 by FATFlyer


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

How long until they actually start pulling the aircraft from the schedule? Are any of the routes going to be re-instated by US? Is Gulfstream likely to take over?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlinePaladin87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):

Actually it was last year ad#2006-18-51


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 1):
Do you think this may have to do something with an earlier problem with the 1900s I believe it was cracks in the wing spar?



Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):
Are you thinking of Chalks running the Mallards?

Air Midwest did have a problem with a 1900 probably 6 years ago or more now down at CLT. But that had to do with faulty maintenance and being out of WB limits, not a wing spar. And like I said it was 6 years ago.



Quoting Paladin87 (Reply 5):
Actually it was last year ad#2006-18-51

Paladin is correct, there was a mandatory FAA inspection of Beech 1900s for cracks in the wing spar. Skyway had two aircraft sidelined as a result of the inspection, one was repaired and returned to service, the other I believe was repaired as well, but did not return to service as it was the next aircraft due to be sold off anyway.

I had heard of several aircraft "down South" being grounded due to the cracks, perhaps ZV was the carrier most affected?

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 3):
I have heard rumors of a sale of the assets of Air Midwest to another Beech operator.

I wonder if Great Lakes would acquire such assets to facilitate their expansion into the Midwestern EAS markets. There has been very little news from them as of late with regards to starting their new routes (the former RegionsAir markets out of STL and the current Skyway markets out of MKE)



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineWetleaseWill From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

They actually wanted to pull ouf several right away, but the FAA wont permit it. Here is the link to the ruling http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf101/470068_web.pdf

User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

I believe you mean DOT will not permit it...

will be interesting to see how the EAS landscape changes.



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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

Interesting....wonder if these cities would be switched over to STL by Great Lakes dba American Connection? American provides a lot more connections out of there than US does at MCI. Or could Great Lakes come in and operate the flights as Midwest Connect to MCI? By the way does anyone have any info on the status of the Great Lakes/American Connection flights to STL? They weer awarded some of the eas contracts after RegionsAir shut down, but no news since.

User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

This sucks. My bes freind lives in Omaha and I try to use US as much as I can to Non rev so there goes my access to Omaha the easy and free way. Looks like I will be paying ZED fares to Midwest Airlines from DCA to go to Omaha for now on.


There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

OK.. so where does it say RDU-CHS/ORF will be dropped?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Is Gulfstream likely to take over?

I have heard that Gulfstream is taking over Air Midwest. Some pilots I know say the rumor mill has it down pretty much as an almost done deal. If this is indeed true, the question left is whether 3M would take over the routes that Air Midwest was flying or if they would take them down to their Florida and Bahama operations. Gulfstream has a good operation down there, just not enough airplanes to make a decent number of runs into all the cities it serves(except EYW).

Gulfstream already has a few YV aircraft, painted in standard 3M colors, instead of the CO Connection colors that most of the other B1900's and Brasilia's carry.



OttoPylit


User currently offlineWetleaseWill From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

I know that Athens is tasked with finding their own replacement. Not sure how it works in other cities. If they dont find the replacement by May 2008...they will lose their air service. That assumes the DOT does not extend its ruling even further.

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