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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Evening!

My instructor told me yesterday that the CO Hangar at DEN is being leased out to F9. I was wondering for those folks based at DEN know the truth to that. If that is not true, why doesn't F9 have its own hangar at DEN considering the fact that they are home based there?

Any answers would be appreciated. Thanks!


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5987 times:

Frontier leased a part of the hangar until the lease expired in February and since then have been on a month-to-month sublease until they decide on whether to build a hangar in Denver or elsewhere.

They did try to buy the hangar from Continental at one point.



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5949 times:
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Have always been at least one F9 Airbus in front of said hangar when I have flown into DEN over the past 3 years...last week there was one Airbus there.

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24952 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5949 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Thread starter):
I was wondering for those folks based at DEN know the truth to that.

BA is correct. But it has been useful for both Continental and Frontier.

Continental built the hangar for their hub at DEN, but when that was wound down, Frontier, then a small start-up, leased the space.

Now that Frontier has grown to its present size, it has become an issue. According to the Frontier CEO last week, they are negotiating with DIA to build a five bay hangar of their own.

mariner



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 3):
According to the Frontier CEO last week, they are negotiating with DIA to build a five bay hangar of their own.

That would be so, so, so sweet! I am considering applying to F9. I saw their commercials on YouTube.com and was totally impressed by their creativity. Seems like they are the 2nd coming of WN.

Where does F9 sent their aircraft for heavy checks? Also, are there any outstanding aircraft deliveries that F9 is expecting? What about SJU service?

Thanks once again!



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24952 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5861 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
Where does F9 sent their aircraft for heavy checks?

On the same CC, the CEO said they are doing their own C checks - which may be part of the reason for the hangar. Thy are already hiring (have hired?) C check specialists.

I don't know if they are going to do the D checks in-house when they come up.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
Also, are there any outstanding aircraft deliveries that F9 is expecting?

N812FR - the 11th A318 - flies from Hamburg Finkenwerder to Orlando next week for DirectTV installation, plus the new, leather Spectrum seats. It is due in DEN on June 27.

The next delivery will be the first A320 - next February,

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
What about SJU service?

They just announced DEN-SJO. I don't know if they are thinking about SJU.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 5):
I don't know if they are going to do the D checks in-house when they come up

I would LOVE to be a part of that crew!!

Quoting Mariner (Reply 5):
N812FR - the 11th A318

Which animal will that one be?

Quoting Mariner (Reply 5):
The next delivery will be the first A320 - next February,

Im assuming the tail number for that might start with a 3?



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24952 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5749 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
Which animal will that one be?

A big grizzly bear, standing up. There's a photo of it on planepictures.net.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
Im assuming the tail number for that might start with a 3?

I believe the first A320 is to be N201FR - but don't hold me to that.

mariner



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 7):
A big grizzly bear, standing up.

Griz has competition!!!

Quoting Mariner (Reply 7):
I believe the first A320 is to be N201FR

Right, I originally assumed it would be a 3. But you might be right...starting with a 2. The last two digits, who knows.



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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 1):
sublease until they decide on whether to build a hangar in Denver or elsewhere.

To any F9 higher ups that browse this site, BNA currently has plenty of room for you here. LOL!!!!

I am being serious, but I am kidding in the same breath. I had to get a plug in you know.



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16793 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

F9 leased space at the CO hangar, now that that lease is over CO is beefing up their maintenance base at Denver. They are hiring more mechanics and will bring the maintenace facility up to full speed, lots of 737s coming on board that need maintenance.

CO's mainline maintenance facilities:

Newark (four hangars, two narrowbody, two widebody)
Houston IAH
Houston Hobby
Los Angeles
Honolulu
Orlando (two large multi-bay hangars)
Denver.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 5446 times:

Quoting Lexy (Reply 9):
To any F9 higher ups that browse this site, BNA currently has plenty of room for you here. LOL!!!!

Shhh!!!!! Don't tell them that!!!! DEN has alot of ground space around the airport for a new hangar. They should consider THAT before putting a hangar elsewhere. Besides, it makes sense because almost every flight originates in DEN and comes back to DEN, per their route map and also they are homebased there.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):

Thanks for that information, but not what I was really driving at.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

F9 might not need that big of hanger if they keep losing money. I thought they outsourced all their heavy maint?


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24952 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 5359 times:
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Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 12):
F9 might not need that big of hanger if they keep losing money.

Happily, MEM looks as if it is helping that cause - MEM-MCO gos to 2 x daily at Christmas and DEN-MEM goes to 3 x daily.  

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 12):
I thought they outsourced all their heavy maint?


See above - #5. C checks confirmed by the CEO at the Analysts Summit.

mariner

[Edited 2007-06-10 22:52:40]


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User currently offlineJumboBumbo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
CO's mainline maintenance facilities:

What ever happened to CO's big Greenborough SC (spelling, correct state?) maintenance operation. I know that DEN and Greenborough were both competing for a major maintenance facility in the early 90's but I don't see it on that list. Was it a bust?


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1603 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 4239 times:

"CO's mainline maintenance facilities:

Newark (four hangars, two narrowbody, two widebody)
Houston IAH
Houston Hobby
Los Angeles
Honolulu
Orlando (two large multi-bay hangars)
Denver."

Dont forget Guam (one 737 sized)


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):



Quoting COSPN (Reply 15):

Thank you both for the hangar facilities that CO has, but I was mainly focusing on F9's mx hangar ops and their future plans.



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Quoting JumboBumbo (Reply 14):
Greenborough SC (spelling, correct state?)

Greensboro, North Carolina

I'm pretty sure they still do maintenance there.



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 3):
they are negotiating with DIA to build a five bay hangar of their own.

this is true.

CO offered F9 a price to purchase their hanger at DIa...it was a price that F9 laughed at...then politely told them "no thanks."

The buzz is that F9 will, as stated above, build a hanger at DIA. the airport is bent on getting them to build here.


Interesting factoid: In the future, when DIA builds Concource D, the UAL hanger will be torn down - UAL will build a replacement to the north of the current site. UAL built the present one where they did in full knowledge of this...but they figured it will be a good hanger for most likely 20 years or so...and by that time...we'll build a bigger and better one (and they got a good deal on the land rights. This is why the other maintenance hangers are so far to the north of the concourses.



Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
User currently offlineN801NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

I presume F9 has considered the ex-NWA Airbus hangar at DLH? NW doesn't own it anymore so a reasonable probably could be struck with the state of MN.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 18):

Why not just have a 'hangar row' and build all the hangars on the west side of the airport? Easier said than done, but that is one alternative. There is just so much space around DEN that you can do anything with that airport. Isn't F9 corporate offices just down the street from DEN?



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Isn't F9 corporate offices just down the street from DEN?

It is just off of Tower Rd, just south of Pena blvd. So, yes, it is in fact very close to the airport. It is on the north side of all those "free standing" hotels out there that line Tower. Been there lots of times, they have a great facility. Now, on the other hand, I guess I missed the boat as to why Lynx's HQ is going to be off in the regular office parks of Denver...



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 21):
I guess I missed the boat as to why Lynx's HQ is going to be off in the regular office parks of Denver...

There is another thread that discusses that. I was saying in there that F9 and Lynx should be 1 company with the same crews and using F9 A&P's. Somebody else suggested that it should be alot like the AS/QX sister airline method.

Lynx can share an office with F9 too!



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User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3710 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
Orlando (two large multi-bay hangars)

Not to get off the subject.....but how did CO obtain this large
facility in MCO? from Eastern ???


User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

Quoting N801NW (Reply 19):
I presume F9 has considered the ex-NWA Airbus hangar at DLH? NW doesn't own it anymore so a reasonable probably could be struck with the state of MN.

Its just sitting up in Duluth, collecting snow..



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25 AirframeAS : That could be a good place to do some, if not all, of the heavy checks for F9. Does anyone know as to why NW screwed the state of Minnesota and/or th
26 Post contains links SNCntry32 : http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/04/12/nwaduluth/ F9 Should look a DLH.. =C
27 AirframeAS : They left DLH long before 2005, I believe. IIRC, NW left the DLH base because of outsourcing, not because of the strike.
28 Post contains links SNCntry32 : I believe worked slowed up there due to outsourcing, but ended in 2005 becuase of the strike and bankruptcy. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display
29 AirframeAS : That's not what I heard. The DLH base was shut down way before the strike ever came to light, around 2003-04, IIRC. I disagree, if the hangar can han
30 Post contains links SNCntry32 : Thats what I thought, I just was not sure if the tooling was different. I have no idea about aircraft http://www.am1500.com/categoryfolders/Stories/S
31 AirFrnt : I think that would be Concourse E, not D. The train tracks already run out to E, and my understanding from a construction manager on site is that the
32 Post contains images AirframeAS : I dont have any sources to back this up, but the abandoning of DLH had absolutely nothing to do with the strike. NW just.....left. I don'r really bel
33 Post contains links SNCntry32 : http://news.minnesota.publicradio.or...es/2005/08/17_kelleherb_nwaduluth/ Pretty crystal clear that mechanics were staffed in DLH until 2005 until th
34 Post contains images Charlienorth : NWA pretty much has screwed anyone they have dealt with...customers,employees,cities,states,hotels in Arizona They had pulled back before the strike
35 DeltaL1011man : i believe they bought them from who ever owns the airport.........the last time i was down there (1 years ago) they where only using 1 of them......t
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