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Air Koryo And The Tu-204  
User currently onlineDalavia From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Feb 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3578 times:

I was reading my copy of the new JP Airline Fleets (2007-2008) that arrived in the post today.

It lists two Tu-204s on order for Air Koryo to be delivered this year, one in October, one in November.

Is this real? It is the first I had heard that JS was renewing its fleet.

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3528 times:

Wow, very interesting... anybody got any more news on this?

User currently onlineDalavia From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Feb 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3494 times:

To flesh out my earlier post, according to JP Airlines Fleet, the two Tu-204s are:

October 2007 delivery, one Tu-204-300 with 160 all-Y class seating.

November 2007 delivery, one Tu-204 with 210 all-Y class seating, ex RA-64013.

That's as much as I know.

IF these orders are real, I wonder whether they will replace Tu-154s or Il-62s. Judging by the number of idle planes I see every time I pass through FNJ, I doubt these Tu-204s are for fleet expansion!

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5187 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3387 times:

Quoting Dalavia (Thread starter):
It lists two Tu-204s on order for Air Koryo to be delivered this year, one in October, one in November.

If you compare the range of a Tu-204 it could be well possible that those planes would replace IL62s. The only scheduled destination where Tu204 would be needed would be BKK. No doubt I wouldn't be surprised to see them mainly at PEK and on charter flights for the government (to places where they are still allowed to operate to).

Quoting Dalavia (Reply 2):
IF these orders are real, I wonder whether they will replace Tu-154s or Il-62s. Judging by the number of idle planes I see every time I pass through FNJ, I doubt these Tu-204s are for fleet expansion!

I think most of the planes standing around at FNJ are still operated, not on a regular basis of course but quite often as charter for the government, tourists etc.


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3327 times:
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Quoting Dalavia (Thread starter):
I was reading my copy of the new JP Airline Fleets (2007-2008) that arrived in the post today.

It lists two Tu-204s on order for Air Koryo to be delivered this year, one in October, one in November.

Is this real? It is the first I had heard that JS was renewing its fleet.

I do not have any confirmed notice about this purchase. Supposed to be from Ilyushin Finance...

And I listened that the Antonov fleet will to be supplied with ne AVIC MA-60. Any notice about this "new" acquisition??

Regards,

Gerard


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User currently offlineSibille From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

I think they have two Tu-204-300 on order. The first one should arrive this year and the other one in January or February 2008. There is an article in Airliners World June issue but I don t have it with me now. I will check. I read somewhere a few month ago they wanted to open direct link with Tehran. Tu-204-100 is not abble to make that flight non stop but the Tu-204-300 should be abble to do that. Strange route as Tehran-Damas-Caracas but when I visited Noth Korea in September 2005, half of the hotel s guests where Iranian????????? So.... why not......
RAFVC10, where did you get he info about MA-60? Thanks.

User currently onlineDalavia From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Feb 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

One of the Tu-204s going to JS is supposed to be RA-64013.

Does anyone know who operates that aircraft at the moment?

User currently offlineSibille From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

RA-64013 is an ex Vnukovo aircraft stored for a long time. I'm not sure he still in flight condition. The Air Koryo Tu-204 (100 or 300 but I think it will be 300) will be delivred new.

User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2565 times:
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Quoting Sibille (Reply 5):
RAFVC10, where did you get he info about MA-60? Thanks.

Hi Sibille,

listened. I don't remember where... Maybe the sole travel agency in Spain allowed to organize trips to North Korea but don't remember exactly...

Regards,

Gerard


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 8589 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2447 times:
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Quoting Sibille (Reply 5):
Strange route as Tehran-Damas-Caracas but when I visited Noth Korea in September 2005, half of the hotel s guests where Iranian????????? So.... why not......

Interesting info, given the geopolitical situation right now! Can't help wondering what these Iranians were doing in Pyongyang. Perhaps nuclear scientists on "educational" trips to Yongbon?

i think JS definitely need to update their fleet; it's a hell of a long time since they got their last new aircraft.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Quoting Sibille (Reply 5):
I think they have two Tu-204-300 on order. The first one should arrive this year and the other one in January or February 2008. There is an article in Airliners World June issue but I don t have it with me now. I will check. I read somewhere a few month ago they wanted to open direct link with Tehran.

I seem to remember hearing that along with Belavia getting Tu-204-300 to replace Tu-154Ms.


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