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Frontier/Republic Applies For ABQ-PVR  
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3451 times:
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Republic has applied for - and been granted - authority to fly several of Frontier's Mexican routes, either for slow season or addtional lift in season.

Now they've applied for SJC-SJD and SMF-SJD for the service to go daily in October - I knew those routes were doing okay, but daily surprised me until I saw this application.

But also this little beauty - ABQ-PVR:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p101/472840.pdf

ABQ has been angling for non-stops to Mexico for some time. It is the first Mexican route that isn't already served by mainline Frontier. I'm guessing there might be more.

mariner


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3435 times:
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Quoting Mariner (Thread starter):
It is the first Mexican route that isn't already served by mainline Frontier.

Sorry, that isnt clear. The route - apparently - may be mainline as well at some future point. Frontier mainline will apply for it as well.

mariner



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

Quoting Mariner (Thread starter):
ABQ has been angling for non-stops to Mexico for some time. It is the first Mexican route that isn't already served by mainline Frontier. I'm guessing there might be more.

I'm a little surprised that St. Louis hasn't seen anymore Mexico flights. There isn't hardly any competition, the metro size is large enough to open up a few workable opportunities, and Cancun has at least been an adequate performer from what I gather (correct?). Cabo or Puerto Vallarta shouldn't have any problems working, IMO. Maybe soon?


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

Funny, the originial Frontier flew ABQ-PVR, as well as ABQ-MZT (some flights tagged with ELP from time to time).

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3398 times:
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Quoting LambertMan (Reply 2):
and Cancun has at least been an adequate performer from what I gather (correct?).

I am told that in season it is much better than adequate - but that it falls off badly out of season, to the point where it suspended for the very slow months. Maybe the E170 could change that.

But I really don't know much about STL's relationship with the Mexican cities/resorts. I was surprised to see DFW-MZT and surprised again by the good early loads. And even more surprised that American let it ride unchallenged - at least so far.

But Frontier is really starting to move on the applications for E170 supplemental service to Mexico. As I said, I doubt we have seen the last of them, or the last mainline applications.

mariner



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Quoting Mariner (Thread starter):
Now they've applied for SJC-SJD and SMF-SJD

Anybody have all the U.S to Cabo routes currently flown. I'm trying to see how SJD and CUN compare for US arrivals. I'm sure CUN has a big lead on SJD, just want to see how large the gap is....thanx


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

I, for one, would like to congratulate all of Frontier's employees on their jobs, and future growth, being farmed out to a low bidding contract carrier.

User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1303 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 6):
I, for one, would like to congratulate all of Frontier's employees on their jobs, and future growth, being farmed out to a low bidding contract carrier.

Not true. This is flying that could not support a mainline jet. It also builds a new route until it can support mainline equipment. It also keeps, in the case of some Mexican routes, year-round vs. seasonal service. It compliments and not competes with Frontier. Republic is and will be a great partner for Frontier. It will open new markets and provide critical feed to Frontier.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3041 times:
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Does anyone know what gate they use at ABQ for international arrivals?

Or even - are there any scheduled international arrivals?

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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 8):

Or even - are there any scheduled international arrivals?

There aren't. This would be ABQ's only scheduled international service.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3033 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
There aren't. This would be ABQ's only scheduled international service.

Thanks for that.

But given that Frontier has applied for the route, I assume ABQ is FIS capable?

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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 10):
But given that Frontier has applied for the route, I assume ABQ is FIS capable?

Yes. They had service to Mexico around 2002-2003 with Azteca.

Although airlines do apply for international routes at non-FIS airports, hoping that FIS will be built, such as Northwest applying for Omaha-Cancun or Mexicana to Bakersfield (in the first case, no FIS came and NW pulled the application; in the second, BFL built an FIS).



a.
User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 7):
Not true. This is flying that could not support a mainline jet. It also builds a new route until it can support mainline equipment. It also keeps, in the case of some Mexican routes, year-round vs. seasonal service. It compliments and not competes with Frontier. Republic is and will be a great partner for Frontier. It will open new markets and provide critical feed to Frontier.

Well, yes, you are very correct that these routes can't support A318 service or anything like that. But, is not some podunk regional route being flown by a 30 seat turboprop. Its an international route on a large jet between two large cities. So, my point is that this E170 flying... and all flying done by "regional" jets of that size isn't regional at all... these aircraft are large enough that it is simply and purely jobs and flying being outsourced to the lowest bidder. These E170s should be flown by Frontier.

These "regional" jets keep getting bigger and bigger. They're currently as big as some DC-9s. In 15 years, will all 737s and A320s be "regional" aircraft?


User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1303 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 12):
my point is that this E170 flying... and all flying done by "regional" jets of that size isn't regional at all... these aircraft are large enough that it is simply and purely jobs and flying being outsourced to the lowest bidder. These E170s should be flown by Frontier.

So, you are saying Frontier shouldn't offer ABQ Int'l flying at this time? They should wait until Frontier is able to purchase and fly their own E170's? There are some other threads that explain why Frontier cannot fly the E170's at this time. Their resources are being directed at starting Lynx and getting certification for the Q400's. Two new aircraft is not feasible. With Frontier wanting to expand its RJ flying and with Horizon moving out in December, starting the Republic relationship was the best and quickest solution to Frontier's needs.

You might have issue with the Lynx operation? It is a Frontier subsidiary and not being flown by mainline Frontier employees? But, this argument can be made of every major airline and their regional partners.

The simple fact is some of the future growth that we might see could not happen without a partnership with a quality airline such as Republic.

Frontier has not ruled out adding E jets to its fleet in the future. Economically speaking though, it would be operated by Lynx and not mainline Frontier.

Cheers



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User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 560 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Looks like Frontier has also filed for ABQ-PVR authority today:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p101/472909.pdf


User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 12):
So, my point is that this E170 flying... and all flying done by "regional" jets of that size isn't regional at all... these aircraft are large enough that it is simply and purely jobs and flying being outsourced to the lowest bidder. These E170s should be flown by Frontier.

At least Frontier is smart in their use of the RJ, they use it to build market share enough to throw mainline on most routes.


User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1303 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

Quoting AirplaneBoy (Reply 14):
Looks like Frontier has also filed for ABQ-PVR authority today

See Flyf15? It's not all doom and gloom. As predicted, both mainline and Republic will hopefully have authority.



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 10):
But given that Frontier has applied for the route, I assume ABQ is FIS capable?

Yes, however it is not located near the gates. Currently it is located at the far west end of the terminal, near where the old C gates used to be. Passengers would have to deplane using stairs and walk into the FIS. It was renovated in 2004 at an expense of about $600,000, and is more than capable of handling 86 passengers.

This issue of the FIS not being located near the gates has been looked at by the airport. It has been determined that room exists under the concourses to build an FIS, however the airport isn't going to spend the money until international service has been commenced and it is clear it will continue.

While ABQ-PVR would be very welcome by Albuquerque, it isn't even the Mexican city most desired by the airport. ABQ badly wants a CUU service to support the business and cultural ties between the two regions. I think that would be a pretty cool route for Lynx.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2739 times:
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Alias1024, thanks for the good input.

The whole question of international - Mexican - service at ABQ intrigues me, because there isn't any and it is so close to the border. I've been following it for some time because there were hints that Frontier was in discussion with them.

At that time, the hints suggested ABQ-CUN as the ideal, but when I did a little digging, it wasn't just CUN. Here's the .pdf of the airports international; incentive program:

http://www.cabq.gov/airport/pdf/airserviceincentive.pdf

Six Mexican cities are eligible for the incentives - although I suspect that if someone wanted to fly to anywhere in Mexico - Los Mochis, say - the airport would welcome them with open arms.

The six cities are: MEX, CUN, PVR, GDL, SJD - and CUU.

I fully understand CUU - Chihuahua. The "point of contact" theory with regard to Mexicans in the US suggests that Mexicans in one area of the US will often (not always) come from one (or two) areas of Mexico.

In Santa Rosa CA, for example, the point of contact appears to be Morelia. IN ABQ, it seems pretty clear that it is the western border states - especially CUU.

So I agree, I'd love to see ABQ-CUU, and maybe it will happen - but not yet.

I think that Frontier is putting a toe in fairly safe water. They can be fairly sure that there will be a tourist demand for PVR, and they can also feed DEN-PVR pax through ABQ in an overflow situation.

They might have this feed for CUU as well, but there wouldn't be the same tourist demand.

Frontier also has its own agenda here. Most US airlines fly to several points in Mexico from a few key cities/hubs in the US. Frontier has neatly reversed that somewhat, flying to several US cities from a few key focus cities in Mexico. Frontier's CEO now agrees that both CUN and SJD can be called "focus cities" for Frontier, and PVR may be headed that way as well.

I guess it is possible that MZT may have been a "better" choice (closer to Sinaloa State and the border), but - MZT isn't on the list, which suggests that ABQ doesn't think so.

The other puzzle is what hapens with Lynx and the Q400's. Again, in the first instance, the Q400's will be limited to DEN and the closer cities there. But CUU is less than 450 miles from ABQ, so maybe - stress "maybe" - that could be a way to go.

I think I see ABQ as a wide open field. Of all the Frontier p2p routes to Mexico, this one really scratches my itch. I like it. I hope it does very well.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 18):
So I agree, I'd love to see ABQ-CUU, and maybe it will happen - but not yet.

I think that Frontier is putting a toe in fairly safe water.

Agreed. I think seasonal, 3 times a week to PVR has a high chance of success. MEX would be great too, but that might be more likely from AM or MX than F9.

Proving the demand for CUU is tough since the O&D numbers are so low currently. This might be due to terrible connections and high fares, or the demand might not be there. CUU would be very risky. Also CUU doesn't fit with the F9 business model at all.

Quoting Mariner (Reply 18):
I've been following it for some time because there were hints that Frontier was in discussion with them.

I've been keeping an eye on it as well. From what I have been told, ABQ had approached at least six airlines in attempts to get international service. Frontier seemed the most promising. Good to see it finally happen.



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User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 19):
I've been keeping an eye on it as well. From what I have been told, ABQ had approached at least six airlines in attempts to get international service.

I've heard that ABQ talked with AM and XE. What are the other airlines that they have talked to?

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 19):
Frontier seemed the most promising. Good to see it finally happen.

I wonder why ABQ has had such a tough time attracting international service. AM and MX don't seem interested in serving ABQ.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25073 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2692 times:
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Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 19):
MEX would be great too, but that might be more likely from AM or MX than F9.

I don't think Frontier has sorted out what relationship they are going to have with MEX - or if they are going to have one at all.

I suspect they might focus on GDL.

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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Anybody know how many daily flights operate from the U.S to Cabo (SJD)?

User currently offlineOlli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 22):
Anybody know how many daily flights operate from the U.S to Cabo (SJD)?



Quoting Juventus (Reply 5):
I'm trying to see how SJD and CUN compare for US arrivals

For instance, these are the flight to Cabo (SJD) for today June the 14th.

25 flights. Of course the frequencies increase during weekends, especially Saturday's

DEN Denver F9 71 Frontier Airlines 12:55 PM 12:47 PM
DFW Dallas AA 1225 American Airlines 11:40 AM 11:34 AM
DFW Dallas AA 865 American Airlines 03:10 PM 03:16 PM
DFW Dallas AA 875 American Airlines 08:15 PM 08:15 PM
DFW Dallas MG 360 Champion Air 11:15 AM
IAH Houston BTA 2079 Continental Express 02:51 PM 03:53 PM
IAH Houston BTA 2259 Continental Express 07:37 PM 07:37 PM
IAH Houston CO 1452 Continental Airlines 12:09 PM 12:27 PM
IAH Houston CO 1769 Continental Airlines 01:03 PM 01:29 PM
LAX Los Angeles AA 237 American Airlines 01:05 PM 01:08 PM
LAX Los Angeles AA 249 American Airlines 05:00 PM 04:53 PM
LAX Los Angeles AS 248 Alaska Airlines 04:07 PM 03:46 PM
LAX Los Angeles AS 292 Alaska Airlines 05:17 PM 05:01 PM
LAX Los Angeles F9 10 Frontier Airlines 01:10 PM 12:58
LAX Los Angeles MX 939 Mexicana 02:55 PM 02:50 PM
PHX Phoenix HP 332 America West 11:57 AM 12:14 PM
PHX Phoenix HP 335 America West 01:24 PM 01:24 PM
PHX Phoenix HP 340 America West 02:59 PM 03:53 PM
SAN San Diego AM 489 Aeromexico 12:10 PM 12:10 PM
SAN San Diego AS 230 Alaska Airlines 01:26 PM 01:16 PM
SFO San Francisco AS 214 Alaska Airlines 04:50 PM 04:53 PM
SFO San Francisco AS 236 Alaska Airlines 02:21 PM 02:04 PM
SFO San Francisco UA 1661 United Airlines 01:45 PM 01
SMF Sacramento F9 24 Frontier Airlines 11:20 AM 11:17 AM
SMF Sacramento MX 961 Mexicana 12:25 PM 12:25 PM

Cancun today June 14th

60 flights

ATL Atlanta DL 243 Delta Air Lines 12:55 PM 01:12 PM
ATL Atlanta DL 321 Delta Air Lines 07:09 PM 07:04 PM
ATL Atlanta DL 323 Delta Air Lines 02:32 PM 02:34
ATL Atlanta DL 325 Delta Air Lines 11:28 AM 11:21 AM
AUS Austin AM 6953 Aeromexico 06:07 PM 06:22 PM
BWI Baltimore U5 308 USA 3000 Airlines 09:20 AM 09:07 AM
CLE Cleveland U5 410 USA 3000 Airlines 09:40 AM 09:48 AM
CLT Charlotte US 807 US Airways 11:24 AM 11:43 AM
CLT Charlotte US 815 US Airways 01:30 PM 01:30 PM
CVG Hebron U5 382 USA 3000 Airlines 01:20 PM 01:08 PM
DEN Denver F9 38 Frontier Airlines 04:30 PM 04:30 PM
DEN Denver F9 42 Frontier Airlines 03:40 PM 03:55 PM
DFW Dallas AA 1211 American Airlines 07:25 PM 07:21 PM
DFW Dallas AA 1625 American Airlines 03:30 PM 03:22 PM
DFW Dallas AA 2063 American Airlines 01:40 PM 01:22 PM
DFW Dallas AA 315 American Airlines 11:30 AM 11:16 AM
DFW Dallas AM 6131 Aeromexico 11:35 AM 10:55 AM
DFW Dallas AM 6265 Aeromexico 09:35 AM 09:25 AM
DFW Dallas MG 310 Champion Air 10:35 AM 10:32 AM
DFW Dallas MG 312 Champion Air 04:45 PM 04:29 PM
DFW Dallas RD 901 Ryan International Airlines 08:23 AM 08:30 AM
DFW Dallas SY 503 Sun Country Airlines 11:45 AM 11:44 AM
DTW Detroit NW 1093 Northwest Airlines 08:58 AM 08:55 AM
EWR Newark CO 1709 Continental Airlines 10:55 AM 10:51 AM
EWR Newark CO 1730 Continental Airlines 12:29 PM 12:29 PM
FLL Fort Lauderdale NK 271 Spirit Airlines 11:31 AM 11:26 AM
FLL Fort Lauderdale NK 461 Spirit Airlines 03:10 PM 03:20 PM
IAD Washington UA 1697 United Airlines 03:00 PM 02:43 PM
IAH Houston AM 6001 Aeromexico 03:05 PM 03:00 PM
IAH Houston AM 6003 Aeromexico 09:10 AM 09:00 AM
IAH Houston AM 6005 Aeromexico 03:50 PM 03:57 PM
IAH Houston CO 1064 Continental Airlines 09:05 PM 08:58 PM
IAH Houston CO 364 Continental Airlines 12:55 PM 12:33 PM
IAH Houston CO 464 Continental Airlines 11:25 AM 11:08 AM
IAH Houston CO 564 Continental Airlines 04:40 PM 04:38 PM
IAH Houston CO 664 Continental Airlines 02:30 PM 02:13 PM
IAH Houston CO 764 Continental Airlines 06:10 PM 06:02 PM
JFK New York AA 1671 American Airlines 01:55 PM 01:19 PM
JFK New York B6 751 JetBlue Airways 11:40 AM 11:28 AM
JFK New York B6 753 JetBlue Airways 01:15 PM 01:47 PM
LAX Los Angeles AS 228 Alaska Airlines 04:36 PM 04:07 PM
LAX Los Angeles MX 947 Mexicana 04:25 PM 04:25 PM
LAX Los Angeles UA 1665 United Airlines 05:05 PM 04:52 PM
MEM Memphis NW 662 Northwest Airlines 04:57 PM 04:56 PM
MEM Memphis NW 664 Northwest Airlines 12:40 PM 12:39 PM
MIA Miami AA 187 American Airlines 12:39 PM 12:39 PM
MIA Miami AA 2137 American Airlines 03:45 PM 04:02 PM
MIA Miami AA 2147 American Airlines 07:35 PM 07:30 PM
MIA Miami AA 2185 American Airlines 10:40 AM 10:42 AM
MIA Miami AA 2187 American Airlines 12:45 PM 12:47 PM
MIA Miami MX 306 Mexicana 08:40 AM 08:40 AM
MIA Miami MX 310 Mexicana 06:40 PM 06:35 PM
ORD Chicago U5 500 USA 3000 Airlines 10:17 AM 10:12 AM
ORD Chicago UA 1681 United Airlines 12:33 PM 12:16 PM
PHL Philadelphia U5 186 USA 3000 Airlines 09:18 AM 09:33 AM
PHL Philadelphia US 803 US Airways 10:30 AM 10:44 AM
PHL Philadelphia US 811 US Airways 12:35 PM 01:27 PM
PHX Phoenix HP 315 America West 03:00 PM 05:07 PM
PIT Pittsburgh U5 920 USA 3000 Airlines 09:14 AM 09:15 AM
SAT San Antonio AM 6951 Aeromexico 11:10 AM 11:00 AM

Cancun still rules.

Regards,


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 20):
I've heard that ABQ talked with AM and XE. What are the other airlines that they have talked to?

This was back in late 2004, but at the time the three I was told by the director of aviation for ABQ were Delta, Continental, and Frontier. Obviously these would have been operated by their regional affliliates. The other three he didn't want to reveal, however the Tribune said they were AeroMexico, Mexicana, and AeroLitoral.

I had kinda hoped ExpressJet might try it with their branded flying, but they seem to want to stay domestic for now.

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 20):
I wonder why ABQ has had such a tough time attracting international service. AM and MX don't seem interested in serving ABQ.

I think it is a matter of proving that the market exists. The O&D numbers aren't all that impressive really except for MEX. F9 knows how to stimulate these sort of US to Mexico routes, so hopefully it will be successful and AM or MX will decide to give things a try.



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25 JetBlueAUS : What about ABQ-CUN? Could it be possibly added? I'm just wondering.
26 Mariner : Sure, it could. No one flies the route, and it is on ABQ airport's list of the six Mexican destinations they most want. When rumors came out that Fro
27 Alias1024 : Sure it's possible. I like PVR better for a few reasons though. First is the failure of the AUS-CUN. Second is that connecting to PVR from ABQ is les
28 RW717 : Maybe ABQ could become a Focus city with flights to LAS, LAX, SFO, DFW etc, etc.
29 Juventus : Thanx very much for the info Olli. I didn't think the gap between CUN and SJD was that big. Not only does CUN have 60 daily flights, but let's not fo
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