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Airlines That Fly 744s Into YYZ.  
User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

I was wondering what airlines were left flying 744s into YYZ. AC retired them in 2004, BA switched LHR-YYZ over to 777s, heard AF were flying in a few 744s for the summer, not sure about KLM. LH supposedly 340s now.


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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4722 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

KLM is atm flying the 744(M) on KL691/692, however that will (or has) change seeing less 744 flights into YYZ. For more info, see the KL 77W thread


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User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

Korean did as well, not sure if they still do...

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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3978 times:

Off the top of my head, we still see BA, AF, KLM & Korean


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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3075 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3868 times:
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BA = seasonal (winter), occasional summer
LH = occasional
KAL= not in some time
KLM = regular for now but changing to 77W/74M mix soon
AF= seasonal (summer)

Air France this year was a surprise honestly, and i don't think it'll happen again. Lufthansa might bring the 744s back post A380 introduction. Virgin Atlantic if they return will probably be 343 so thats a no. BA i think will keep at least 1 744 through the winter.

Alas i think Toronto will never again be the 747 hub it once was...



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 4):
Virgin Atlantic if they return will probably be 343 so thats a no.

You mean Virgin was operating to YYZ...  wideeyed 


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

2007 Summer.....

Korean Air 4 weekly 744
KLM 4 weekly 744, 3 weekly 74E
British Airways 6 weekly 744
Air France Daily 744

Lufthansa is 340-600


2007 Winter
Korean Air 2 weekly 744
KLM 4 weekly 744, 3 weekly 74E


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
You mean Virgin was operating to YYZ...

They did, with the 742 from LGW, started in 2000, ended after 9/11.  Smile



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
You mean Virgin was operating to YYZ...

VS started service LGW-YYZ in June 2001 but it didn't last long. I think they dropped it soon after 9/11.


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User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Don't forget as well that YYZ sees quite a few 747 freighters. Yeah the number of 747s at YYZ, like at most other airports, isn't what it used to be.

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 4):
Alas i think Toronto will never again be the 747 hub it once was...

Mid Nineties:
AC, AF, AI, AR, AZ, BA, BR, CP, CX, IB, KE, KL, LH, MP, OA, PK, 4X.

Did I miss any?

I probably should have left BR off. EVA was freight only.

[Edited 2007-06-14 01:29:33]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 10):
Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 4):
Alas i think Toronto will never again be the 747 hub it once was...

Mid Nineties:
AC, AF, AI, AR, AZ, BA, BR, CP, CX, IB, KE, KL, LH, MP, OA, PK, 4X.

Did I miss any?

I probably should have left BR off. EVA was freight only.

Swissair also operated 747s to YYZ in the past. I remember flying one of their brand new 747-300s YYZ-ZRH with a stop at Mirabel airport in Montreal soon after they went into service about 1983 (Swissair was the launch customer for the 747-300).

If you go back a few years before the mid-90s, there was also Wardair and (not quite so far back) Nationair.


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The Nationair 747 was an ex-Wardair aircraft.


User currently offlineYYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

Cathay Pacific flys a 747-400F into YYZ 3 times a week, Korean Air is in with its 747-400 twice a week.

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1993 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

There was a treat about this awhile back, and surprisingly YVR gets more 747 traffic then YYZ, due to the large amount of Asian flights that come in, off the top of my head I can think of a few YVR flights. BA, QF, BR, CX, JA, China Airways and that is it off the top of my head, but it is surprising how much 747s we get here vs YYZ.


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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
The Nationair 747 was an ex-Wardair aircraft.

i flew with Nationair YYZ-LGW in 1991. The plane was C-FFUN. Ex Wardair, as you say.


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Does Korean still send it's 747 Cargo into YYZ as well? It was always strange to see the two planes land one after another later in the evenings. Kalita Air is sending an older 747 into YYZ on occasion with freight charters.

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 10):
Mid Nineties:
AC, AF, AI, AR, AZ, BA, BR, CP, CX, IB, KE, KL, LH, MP, OA, PK, 4X.

Did I miss any?

I probably should have left BR off. EVA was freight only.

Up until a few years ago, LY would send 744 to YYZ


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They were mostly seasonal,
Sometimes flying YYZ - JFK - TLV or LAX - YYZ - TLV.


User currently offlineMtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3189 times:

does Air India still flies 744 to YYZ or they changed to 777

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 13):
There was a treat about this awhile back, and surprisingly YVR gets more 747 traffic then YYZ,

YQX probably gets almost as many 747s nowadays as YYZ does. Mind you, these are all tech stops and medical diversions.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 6):
2007 Summer.....

Korean Air 4 weekly 744
KLM 4 weekly 744, 3 weekly 74E
British Airways 6 weekly 744
Air France Daily 744

Lufthansa is 340-600


2007 Winter
Korean Air 2 weekly 744
KLM 4 weekly 744, 3 weekly 74E

Hi Jim,
where did you find this info out of interest?


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 16):
Up until a few years ago, LY would send 744 to YYZ

I didn't forget El Al: I absent-mindedly wrote "4X" - Israel's registration code, instead of LY.
I did forget I had so many LY B747 photos on A.net  Smile

John.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3081 times:

Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 17):
does Air India still flies 744 to YYZ or they changed to 777

AI flies 772 to YYZ....the 744's were never operated by AI to YYZ...it used to be the 742 upto about 1996 or so, thereafter there was a gap in service and they resumed a couple of years back with the 772... smile 


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4722 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting YOW (Reply 18):
YQX probably gets almost as many 747s nowadays as YYZ does.

I don't think that Gander gets 2-3 747's a day!



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting Donder10 (Reply 19):
where did you find this info out of interest?

GDS info as of yesterday.


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 22):
I don't think that Gander gets 2-3 747's a day!

In the wintertime, neither does YYZ on some days anymore. I was exaggerating a bit of course with my Gander reference. YQX does indeed get more like 2-3 747s a week. But they also get a lot of other unique visitors. Looking at the flight tracker, in the past week, they've had several AN-124s, an ATA L-1011 (that won't happen much longer), a DC-9 flying overseas and a B741, among others.


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