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JetBlue Again Reviews Future Growth  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Reuters reporting jetBlue is looking at another review of its business strategy. It may sell planes if necessary. Of course that may translate into a slower growth.

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...37_N13450472&type=comktNews&rpc=44

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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
It may sell planes if necessary.

Planes were supposed to get sold anyway...out with the old in with the new. Last year was 5 a/c that went to BlueWings.



"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4676 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5125 times:

With the backlog for the A320 I wouldn't be surprised if they would sell deliveryslots or options.


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User currently offlineCloudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 808 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4866 times:

Here we go. Traditional manager finally wins the day, takes over. Decides this customer service and going by customer demand is a bunch of crock, brings in traditional old process as cost cutting measures. Stock holders are excited the first few years because of all the paper savings while the customer base dries up, they loose market share, and eventually die off. Big stock holders sell off their shares just before the crash, and then blame holdouts who still championed for customer oriented service for killing the company.


"Six becoming three doesn't create more Americans that want to fly." -Adam Pilarski
User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

At Jet Blue's current stock price Delta Air Lines could by Jet Blue for a song!

.. No pun intended!

-JD


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32688 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

While the South Florida expansion rumours have been around forever with little action, and I won't hold my breathe, word is that the Mr. Barger is a lot more adament about expanding at FLL and going into MIA.


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User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 3):
Here we go. Traditional manager finally wins the day, takes over. Decides this customer service and going by customer demand is a bunch of crock, brings in traditional old process as cost cutting measures. Stock holders are excited the first few years because of all the paper savings while the customer base dries up, they loose market share, and eventually die off. Big stock holders sell off their shares just before the crash, and then blame holdouts who still championed for customer oriented service for killing the company.

Alternative: Continue to expand in already unprofitable markets. Grow as if segment margins don't matter at all. Lose ridiculous amounts of money. Watch as inventors pull out. Express shock as airline ceases to exist. Sounds like this is your preference.

Either that or you're one of the people who knows (just KNOWS!) that every airline just HAS to making money everywhere because they happen to have 80% LF.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8462 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

So JetBlue already has 10-15 aircraft that are treading water, perhaps not earning their keep. There is no shame in shrinking to be the perfect size to make the most money.

User currently offlineBN727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 3):
Big stock holders sell off their shares just before the crash, and then blame holdouts who still championed for customer oriented service for killing the company.

Do you work so hard at being positive or do you just not like a good airline like Jetblue? B-6 has their work cutout for them with a landscape at JFK and Delta saturating air traffic with regional Barbie jets and Dash-8's thus overwhelming the good people of Air traffic Control. Will Delta ever play nice or just keep losing money in attempts to destroy NY's airline Jetblue?....Song was a financial disaster attempting to destroy the knights in shining Blue. Both companies need to come to an accord so both can make money in JFK and play nice in the sandbox. For cryin' out loud.......


User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4312 times:
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Flighty said it best...

Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
So JetBlue already has 10-15 aircraft that are treading water, perhaps not earning their keep. There is no shame in shrinking to be the perfect size to make the most money.

JBLU


User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4164 times:

Quoting BN727 (Reply 8):
with a landscape at JFK and Delta saturating air traffic with regional Barbie jets and Dash-8's thus overwhelming the good people of Air traffic Control.

So, JetBlue's problems are Delta's fault...GOOD! The EMP (Evil Master Plan) is working!!!

Quoting BN727 (Reply 8):
Will Delta ever play nice

Dear JetBlue,

We apologize for not conceding the entire JFK market, which we served before your former CEO was even born, to you. We are so sorry that our business plan to feed our transatlantic operation included offering connections to smaller cities throughout the northeast. Never once did we imagine that our "Barbie Jets" would get in the way of your beautiful fleet of A320s, with which you meant to compete against us.

We feel ashamed. From now on, we promise to play nice. Effective immediately, anytime one of your aircraft is either leaving or arriving at the same airport as one of ours (not just at JFK, mind you), we will request ATC clears you first.

Hugs and kisses,
Delta

Quoting BN727 (Reply 8):
or just keep losing money in attempts to destroy NY's airline Jetblue?....

Let's see what the 2nd quarter report says...

Quoting BN727 (Reply 8):
Both companies need to come to an accord so both can make money in JFK and play nice in the sandbox.

Okay, JetBlue. Here's the deal...we come to an agreement where you go out of business, and we don't have to hold up our 767s and 777s full of passengers travelling the world just so you can fly a(nother) aircraft with people wanting to go to Ft. Lauderdale.

Agreed? Good. Now shoo!!!


User currently offlineAirlineFanatic From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting LawnDart (Reply 10):
Okay, JetBlue. Here's the deal...we come to an agreement where you go out of business, and we don't have to hold up our 767s and 777s full of passengers travelling the world just so you can fly a(nother) aircraft with people wanting to go to Ft. Lauderdale.

Agreed? Good. Now shoo!!!

Wow! - How long out of bankruptcy? Less than 30 days and the DL ego is alive and VERY strong. It is simply a modification to their growth strategy, a review of the business... not so sure if the nature of the thread once again turning into a WE HATE JETBLUE fest is called for, but I guess rivalry is rivalry. Similar to when DL decided to stop sending their 767 to PBI, FLL and MCO from NYC and realizing that they can "travel the world" as you boast.

As a former crewmember of JetBlue and a current DL customer living in NY, I would like to see the two "co-exist" to the extent they can, I mean there ARE enough passengers in New York city for everyone. The two airlines should ban together and take out American (I worked for them at JFK while I was in school 10 years ago)... they're the weakest service wise in my opinion, though I accumalate a lot of miles through my credit card on them, I hate to have to turn them in and actually fly with them.

my $.02


User currently offlineCloudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 808 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4022 times:

Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 6):
Alternative: Continue to expand in already unprofitable markets. Grow as if segment margins don't matter at all. Lose ridiculous amounts of money. Watch as inventors pull out. Express shock as airline ceases to exist. Sounds like this is your preference.

Either that or you're one of the people who knows (just KNOWS!) that every airline just HAS to making money everywhere because they happen to have 80% LF.

So then if JetBlue has it so wrong, then why aren't all the other conventional airlines just rolling in dough and why has JetBlue been not been stuck and left serving only one or two routes? The fact is that conventional airline practices suck. That's why most of our airlines have already been through bankruptcy, many more than once. Why get so excited because thins are suddenly not looking so gloomy? We should be seeing loads far higher than they are now. But flying has become such a problem and unjoyable experience that people actively seek to avoid it, and when they do have to fly, want to spend as absolutely little on it as they can. The simply fact of the matter is that the aviation industry has killed itself and has had some pretty disasterous effects on the travel industry as a whole. It's time to let new innovation and ideas come through.



"Six becoming three doesn't create more Americans that want to fly." -Adam Pilarski
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

jetBlue,

your JFK hub is fortified. How about some P2P? With everyone trying to take on NYC, it can't be the prize anymore.. no matter what anyone says.

Average Joe



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4247 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Quoting BN727 (Reply 8):
Do you work so hard at being positive or do you just not like a good airline like Jetblue? B-6 has their work cutout for them with a landscape at JFK and Delta saturating air traffic with regional Barbie jets and Dash-8's thus overwhelming the good people of Air traffic Control. Will Delta ever play nice or just keep losing money in attempts to destroy NY's airline Jetblue?....Song was a financial disaster attempting to destroy the knights in shining Blue. Both companies need to come to an accord so both can make money in JFK and play nice in the sandbox.

I don't really think this is accurate. The problems at JFK are two fold: (1) They are of JetBlue's own making and (2) other airlines have ramped up service there too.

The real problem that JetBlue has right now is that they are building a new terminal at JFK and they are having trouble adding new flights - how can you plan to increase the number of flights when the airport is already near capacity? My last 5-6 flights out of JFK have resulted in at least a 45 minute taxi, and most of those were on 'good' days. When the weather is bad, as it has been for about the past week and probably most of the summer, B6, DL and AA all have to cancel flights. Of course doing this hurts JetBlue the most as it is their home base.

The selling of airplanes is nothing new. Its all about trying to right-size the ship. Unless there are significant changes to the master plan, I'd imagine that JetBlue will still have a net increase in the size of its fleet come year end.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3981 times:
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Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 12):
So then if JetBlue has it so wrong, then why aren't all the other conventional airlines just rolling in dough and why has JetBlue been not been stuck and left serving only one or two routes? The fact is that conventional airline practices suck.

Cloudboy,

As one who goes to bat for jetBlue whenever I can, I have to disagree with your logic. jetBlue doesn't have it perfect, and neither do the legacies-- and both are learning. jetBlue HAS been stuck before. The fact is is that "conventional airline practices" took the back seat years ago, with survival instincts taking over. And now that the legacies are emerging from bankruptcy, it puts the jetBlues and AirTrans of our industry at risk. Why aren't the conventional airlines rolling in dough? Oh, they are-- they've just been much more careful about spending it than they were prior to the economic turndown. American, an airline I'll admit to strongly disliking, has deeper pockets than they know what to do with...

Just my $.02
JBLU


User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 12):
So then if JetBlue has it so wrong, then why aren't all the other conventional airlines just rolling in dough and why has JetBlue been not been stuck and left serving only one or two routes?

First your reasoning is way off course. To start Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, Continental Airlines, and American Airlines, are all in much better financial shape than they were when Jet Blue entered the scene. You also have to realize that Jet Blue grew while the majors were unable to. Jet Blue is no longer the golden child, as the playing field is now level. Jet Blue had a chance during the bankruptcies of United and Delta to open into prized markets like SFO and LAX. They sadly chose not to. In the meantime you are seeing the majors take back their position and fight Jet Blue, as I have said before, now on an even footing.

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 12):
The fact is that conventional airline practices suck.

What part about conventional airline practices suck? Please explain?

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 12):
That's why most of our airlines have already been through bankruptcy, many more than once.

Your statement is totally false, "many" more than once?

Air Tran Bankruptcies
0
Alaska Airlines Bankruptcies
0
Aloha Airlines Bankruptcies
1
American Airlines Bankruptcies
0
America West Bankruptcies
1
Delta Air Lines Bankruptcies
1
Hawaiian Airlines Bankruptcies
1
Midwest Bankruptcies
1
Northwest Airlines Bankruptcies
1
United Airlines Bankruptcies
1

The fact is that only two major airlines have claimed Bankruptcy more than once

Continental Airlines Bankruptcies?
2
US Air/US Airways Bankruptcies?
2

To say that "many" claimed more than once is false.

Quoting AirlineFanatic (Reply 11):
Similar to when DL decided to stop sending their 767 to PBI, FLL and MCO from NYC and realizing that they can "travel the world" as you boast.

That makes total sense. Why send widebody equipment to very low yielding markets when you can make 4-5x the return on international routes. it is called fleet rationalization. Get used to it, it is system-wide and on every airlines out there.

Quoting AirlineFanatic (Reply 11):
As a former crewmember of JetBlue and a current DL customer living in NY, I would like to see the two "co-exist" to the extent they can, I mean there ARE enough passengers in New York city for everyone.

I hate to tell you, but there is talk of Delta kicking the tires at Jet Blue..

Quoting AirlineFanatic (Reply 11):
The two airlines should ban together and take out American (I worked for them at JFK while I was in school 10 years ago)...

No airline will take AA out of the JFK market. Do you think that all of the contracts that AA has that call for three class equipment are going to jump onboard one class Jet Blue, and two-class Delta? Not going to happen. American Airlines is the number one US airline in the Heathrow market, number one US airline in the South American market, number one airline in the JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO, JFK-SDQ, JFK-SJU, JFK-MIA market. The notion of AA being taken out by B6/DL is not going to happen. AA is in to good of a position, and that will remain for many years to come. Remember AA has the reserves to fight. AA is focused on money making routes. AA is not going to play this pissing match with B6 over the low yielding shuttle to FLL, and MCO from JFK.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 13):
With everyone trying to take on NYC, it can't be the prize anymore..

Actually AA holds a number of prizes that DL and B6 could both envy.

JFK-LAX #1, JFK-SFO #1, JFK-LHR #1, JFK-EZE #1, JFK-NRT #1 among US airlines in those markets..

Quoting Richierich (Reply 14):
The selling of airplanes is nothing new. Its all about trying to right-size the ship

Indeed it is, and Jet Blue is finding out that rightsizing and rationalizing frequencies are required to stay afloat.

-JD


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4247 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 16):
I hate to tell you, but there is talk of Delta kicking the tires at Jet Blue..

Talk? Maybe on this site. In reality, I don't think there is any meat to it. DL is not in ANY position to be acquiring at the moment - they are only six months out of bankruptcy after all. And besides B6's recent issues, including a change of leadership, I am not convinced they are looking to be bought or taken over at this time. And certainly not by their chief competitor at JFK.

I'll never say never to anything in this industry but DL buying/acquiring/forcing a takeover of JetBlue is not a scenario I see playing out.

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 16):
JFK-LAX #1, JFK-SFO #1, JFK-LHR #1, JFK-EZE #1, JFK-NRT #1 among US airlines in those markets..

Do you really think B6 is envious of any of these? Perhaps JFK-SFO, a route that JetBlue started this year.
JFK-LAX? Its pretty clear that B6 has been avoiding LAX its whole life. We may one day see B6 at LAX but considering that they are the #1 carrier between JFK and the LA area (BUR, ONT, LGB), I don't think they are envious of AA.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3648 times:
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Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 4):
At Jet Blue's current stock price Delta Air Lines could by Jet Blue for a song!

B6 is a prime takeover target at its current stock price... Heck, F9 might be able to get in I-bank to loan them the money...

As to B6 going away... they aren't losing that much money. They have the ability to sell A320's for breakeven to profit.

I love their service.

Quoting Richierich (Reply 14):

The real problem that JetBlue has right now is that they are building a new terminal at JFK and they are having trouble adding new flights - how can you plan to increase the number of flights when the airport is already near capacity?

That is clear. The costs of the new terminal are hurting B6. Yet they do not get the benefit of more gates from their #1 market... once the terminal is complete...

Would I like to see B6 keep growing? Heck yes! Do they need to retrench a little? Unfortunately yes.

Their biggest mistake appears to be the E190's... love the plane, but it wasn't reliable enough at EIS.  Sad

RASM is down throughout the US domestic market. Did you read the WSJ article today about WN? WN published their RASM and CASM for 2007 by month... Its scary as to what RASM is doing. Reading the graph, RASM dropped from a peak of ~10.7 cents to ~9.3 cents. With rising Jet-A prices, WN's CASM has climbed to 9.0 cents (as best as I can read the graph). Obviously B6 will be hit in a similar fashion and doesn't yet bring in WN's RASM.  Sad

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1181...47433853.html?mod=hps_us_my_topics


International flights are doing better (try booking "J class" to India, China, or Japan...), so those airlines are still insulated. But I'm a bear right now... all of the airlines had better hunker down.

Lightsaber



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 16):
JFK-LAX #1, JFK-SFO #1, JFK-LHR #1, JFK-EZE #1, JFK-NRT #1 among US airlines in those markets..

Hahahha.. are those really a prize?

NYC area-LAX area is well covered by several airlines (B6, UA, AA, DL, CO, and probably soon to be Virgin America, NYC area-SFO area is well covered by several airlines (B6, UA, AA, DL, CO, and soon to be Virgin America, Maxjet?)
NYC area-LHR is soon to be well covered by several airlines (AA, DL, CO, UA, BA, Virgin, BM(?), etc)
NYC area-EZE might be the safe one (AA, DL, CO)
NYC area-NRT might be another safe one (AA, JAL, NW?, others?)

Yes, NYC has a plethora of people.. but more and more of NYC business are being diversified elsewhere due to 9/11 attacks.. and with all the flight options, it can't be the great pearl that it was before.. people are not moving TO NYC the way they were before.. they moving FROM..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 19):
Yes, NYC has a plethora of people.. but more and more of NYC business are being diversified elsewhere due to 9/11 attacks.. and with all the flight options, it can't be the great pearl that it was before.. people are not moving TO NYC the way they were before.. they moving FROM..

Yeah they are moving from NYC to Long Island(mostly) and NJ Wink



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User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2361 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Quoting LawnDart (Reply 10):
Dear JetBlue,

We apologize for not conceding the entire JFK market, which we served before your former CEO was even born, to you. We are so sorry that our business plan to feed our transatlantic operation included offering connections to smaller cities throughout the northeast. Never once did we imagine that our "Barbie Jets" would get in the way of your beautiful fleet of A320s, with which you meant to compete against us.

We feel ashamed. From now on, we promise to play nice. Effective immediately, anytime one of your aircraft is either leaving or arriving at the same airport as one of ours (not just at JFK, mind you), we will request ATC clears you first.

Hugs and kisses,
Delta

LOL. That was awesome!!

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 16):
Hawaiian Airlines Bankruptcies
1

Make that 2 Ch. 11s for HA. They went through the 1st time in the early 1990s.

-Aloha!



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User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 19):
Hahahha.. are those really a prize?

Yes they are a prize and their premium cabins show proof of that..

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 19):
NYC area-NRT might be another safe one (AA, JAL, NW?, others?)

NW no longer serves JFK-NRT..

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 19):
Yes, NYC has a plethora of people.. but more and more of NYC business are being diversified elsewhere due to 9/11 attacks.. and with all the flight options, it can't be the great pearl that it was before.. people are not moving TO NYC the way they were before.. they moving FROM..

Yet, at the same time New York City construction is at an all time high, and the city continues to grow..

You were saying??

Quoting Richierich (Reply 17):
I'll never say never to anything in this industry but DL buying/acquiring/forcing a takeover of JetBlue is not a scenario I see playing out.

People said the same when they heard of US Airways and America West talking..

Quoting Richierich (Reply 17):
Do you really think B6 is envious of any of these? Perhaps JFK-SFO, a route that JetBlue started this year.
JFK-LAX? Its pretty clear that B6 has been avoiding LAX its whole life.

Yes I think the B6 wants into more premium markets such as LAX, and SFO. They have just entered the SFO market because they know to survive in the Trans-Con market SFO is key to that. In addition you need to realize with the threat of VA on B6 doorstep LAX is going to be looked at more and more. LAX is as much a prize as LHR is a prize. Problem with B6 is they are suffering now because of a lot of pis poor decisions that were made while the likes of other airlines suffered. Those same airlines are back on their feet and will continue to force B6 into rethinking their markets, and long term goals.

Quoting Richierich (Reply 17):
We may one day see B6 at LAX but considering that they are the #1 carrier between JFK and the LA area (BUR, ONT, LGB), I don't think they are envious of AA.

Oh dear the extra 2 flights that B6 holds over AA, and CO in the Los Angeles market is really a shame to the legacies.. Please...  Yeah sure

Honestly do you think that B6 is making the premium that AA, CO, DL, and UA are making on their Trans-Con service to and from the Los Angeles region? American Airlines and United Airlines flights go out with the premium three-cabin configs due to the demand driven by industry contracts.

-JD


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 22):

Yes they are a prize and their premium cabins show proof of that..

Thus, the difference between a legacy and a Low Cost Carrier. People know what to expect when they enter a JetBlue plane, no first class. However, out of all the low cost carriers and legacy they do offer a much better economy class product. Also, remember, probably 70% of the aircraft probably can't afford first class or business class.

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 22):

People said the same when they heard of US Airways and America West talking..

Yes, however, any fool can determine that US/HP makes a heck of a lot more sense than DL/B6. If DL ends up getting B6 they will just be shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah, pretty much.

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 22):
Honestly do you think that B6 is making the premium that AA, CO, DL, and UA are making on their Trans-Con service to and from the Los Angeles region? American Airlines and United Airlines flights go out with the premium three-cabin configs due to the demand driven by industry contracts.

Good for AA and UA. They are targetting a different area of people than JetBlue is. Not everyone can afford First Class or Biz Class.



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User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 23):
If DL ends up getting B6 they will just be shooting themselves in the foot.

You mean eliminating the competition...

-JD


25 JetBlueAUS : While they are eliminating competition. JetBlue workers are not huge fans of DL. I can guarantee if Delta buys JetBlue, the JetBlue workers will not
26 AIR757200 : Oh, I'm sure it goes both ways!! I don't care for who works for who, but when other airline employees, more-so F/As from B6, that have an attitude (m
27 Richierich : OK, but that hardly makes it true. If I said that NW and UA are "talking about merging", it doesn't make it true. I'm not going to go as far as to sa
28 Bicoastal : Excuse my ignorance, but why is Delta the bad guy and not American Airlines? They both have large operations at JFK, especially AA.
29 Cubastar : Either of you remember the Bob Crandall fiasco when he suggested to the then CEO of Braniff that "you just raise your prices today and I'll match the
30 Cloudboy : You are right that they are all in better financial position now. Delta and United both had the benefit of a recent bankruptcy, and Continental has h
31 IH8B6 : Are you F$%#ing kidding me ????? Seriously?? Amen brother....best post I've seen on this message BORED in a very long time. That speaks volumes. Not
32 ThirteenRight : If the DL/B6 merger comes to fruition, it's a shame that it wouldnt have been F9, they'd make fantastic partners!
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