Zone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1036 posts, RR: 7 Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3502 times:
What seems to be a coup against Star Alliance and its carriers, GOL the owner of the old Varig, and Delta have announced a baggage and ticketing agreement. The agreement is effective July 1st, and will allow Delta and its passengers to fly to new destinations in South America. Is this a harbinger for a possible SkyTeam entry for GOL?
DLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3627 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3417 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1): would hardly call this a coup. United and other Star partners like Lufthansa have teamed up with TAM which provides a multi class product versus GOLs single class LCC concept.
TAM doen not provide a multi-class product on their domestic routes, only international, just like GOL/Varig.
The products are about the same. I flew them both last month.
CMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1001 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3417 times:
So what about Skymiles? I just booked a CMH-ATL-GIG on DL then GIG-CGH, GRU-EZE on Gol then EZE-ATL-CMH back on DL. Can I get skymiles for the Brazil and Argentina segments, that would be a nice bonus.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11496 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2893 times:
And there are rumors about deals between Gol and UX also, a future SkyTeam possible member.
No doubt that after TAM agreements with some Star carriers, Gol/Varig become the major alternative in Brazil and with their international plans for Europa and South America, the best alternative in South America.
And now agreements with CM, CO, DL, UX and probably very soon AF/KL... seems that G3/RG is really a target of SkyTeam.
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
Zone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1036 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2668 times:
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10): And now agreements with CM, CO, DL, UX and probably very soon AF/KL... seems that G3/RG is really a target of SkyTeam.
Entry into SkyTeam would be great for everyone involved. SkyTeam will be able to give it's flyerbase a choice of more destinations, and GOL will be able to fill many of its intra-South American Flights with SkyTeam flyers. This also will plug a hole in the SkyTeam network.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
Quoting Incitatus (Reply 12): Delta and Gol signed a run of the mill interline agreement - the type of agreement that deserves no midia space because it is so common.
To put it in perspective, a selection of just some of the other ITBs concluded this week alone were (per IATA) between :
Aer Lingus and Etihad
Air Moldova and Atlasjet
Air China and Air One
Air France and LAM Mozambique
AVIACSA and Air Comet
Cathay Pacific and Mahan Air
Dragonair and Air Berlin
El Al and Eritrean Airlines
Ghana International and Air Zimbabwe
JAL and Kingfisher
Malev and KRASAIR
Syrian Arab Airlines and Armavia
Transaero and AIr Astana
FLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2377 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1): I would hardly call this a coup. United and other Star partners like Lufthansa have teamed up with TAM which provides a multi class product versus GOLs single class LCC concept
This is a very interesting development. I can remember about a year or so ago, Continental was talking to GOL management. This may bode very well for the SkyTeam presence in South America. It has been a hole in their network that has been needed to be filled.
Now the question is that if we indeed have a GOL-DL tie up, JJ-UA tie-up, what happens to AA in the Brazilian market? True that AA has the largest presence of a US airline in the Brazilian market. Will they indeed rely more and more on LAN, for additional Brazil, or is it possible that Aerolineas Argentinas will become part of AA-South American partners?This is even more interesting considering that Avianca, and Copa are rumored to be joining SkyTeam as well.
So in the end SkyTeam would end up with Copa, Avianca-Ocean Air, Gol-Varig, and Aero Mexico for Latin/South American members. Very interesting!