Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23169 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2708 times:
Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 7): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
I don't think MS codeshares with LX. There is no indication of that in current schedules.
Actually , they do . Here is a list of MS code share partners :
Yes, thanks, I overlooked that MS does codeshare on LX-operated flights ZRH-CAI. It seems to be a one-sided arrangement limited only to that route. LX does not codeshare on MS-operated flights GVA-CAI, and LX doesn't include any MS flights in their website or timetable.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8442 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2597 times:
Quoting Qazar (Reply 9): So far our predictions have all materialized regarding future potential Star Alliance partners: TAM, TACA, Egyptair.
none of which have ( yet ) been announced as definitely joining Star ( apart from MS stating their own wishes repeatedly for a number of years now ) . the codeshare and co-operation agreements are certainly significant indicators - but not conclusive - and TAM have been recently quoted as saying that they are not inclined towards joining an alliance .
Quoting Qazar (Reply 9): So what are the next in line with our predictions: Air One, Ethiopian, Qatar, Virgin (the entire group) .
Air One I think are a shoe-in ( though what happens with Alitalia may have an impact on whether they join as a regional or as a full member )
ET , like MS are mentioned in a very odd way in the following link from ATW dated 5 April this year ( yes , I know that publication is a bit hit and miss )
Lufthansa will ..... we will introduce our new first class on time on our A340 fleet by 2009," Executive VP-Marketing and Sales Thierry Antinori told ATWOnline. ......Separately, Antinori said Star Alliance signed an MOU with both EgyptAir and Ethiopian Airlines for bilateral cooperation. "But that does not mean both carriers will be members of the alliance," he cautioned.
whether that means one or the other will join but not both , or whether is should read "But that does not necessarily mean both carriers will be members of the alliance," he cautioned.
is still not clear .
VS , rumour has it , keeps getting vetoed by BD and UA - it seems that all that others want them on board . Certainly DJ would be a great addition and seems to have been moving away from its low cost origins in gradual steps - and if Virgin can get VK working and profitable ( its fleet seem to be downgraded everytime you blink ) then they would be a valuable addition in West Africa
as for QR , they look the most likely of the Gulf state carriers , but it is by no means certain , they may decide that the EK strategy of going it alone will constrain them less and it may also be that existing Star carriers see them as more of a traffic diverter than a traffic generator .
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Qazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 323 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2489 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 10): as for QR , they look the most likely of the Gulf state carriers , but it is by no means certain , they may decide that the EK strategy of going it alone will constrain them less and it may also be that existing Star carriers see them as more of a traffic diverter than a traffic generator .
In all honesty, I don't see the advantage of inviting a Gulf based airline into the alliance. LH serves every country in the Middle East with the exception of Syria and Iraq. Add to that the network by Swiss, and the new feeder possibility by MS, and you've got the Middle East covered from the West. Between Singapore, Thai, and Air India, East originating passengers are also well connected.
The only advantage to a Gulf airline (Emirates, Gulf Air, Qatar,...) would have been its services to India, but with Air India/Indian Airlines now 1 step closer to joining the alliance, I really don't see the advantage (or at least the rush) to have a Gulf airline sollicited.
If I were to point out a next necessity for *A, I would probably look into Russia. Although the LH network into Russia in quite respectable, I believe a partner there would be very beneficiary for further access into the Russian market.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8442 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2441 times:
Quoting Qazar (Reply 11): If I were to point out a next necessity for *A, I would probably look into Russia. Although the LH network into Russia in quite respectable, I believe a partner there would be very beneficiary for further access into the Russian market.
at the risk of going off topic Star have said that Russia is a priority and that they hope to announce one next year
Trent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 484 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2208 times:
Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 1): One step closer for Egyptair to join * Alliance .
Quoting HECA (Reply 2): I know MS already codeshares with other Star Alliance members such as LX, AU and SQ. Are there any others as well?
If Egyptair joined Star Alliance, it would allow greater mileage benefits to/from Japan and Australia (via TG/BKK). Australia currently has only SQ and TG serving major cities and few domestic services (except for a limited number of codeshare services with DJ). It would also provide more route options (via BKK). That would benefit Egyptair and its passengers. More, and more flexible travel options and the associated competition is a good thing.